Thor & Ice Man VS. Swamp Thing & Firestorm

Originally posted by Lord Feron
I have already said Team one will lose in Classic, and I have already said I'm not kinda on the fence about Current fight.

I may not be as knowledgeable as you about firestorm's powerset and all his feats and accomplishment but ignorance is a ugly word for unaware.

Anyhow, you seem to be quite the opposite of that, and actually reasonable, so I'll continue with a few things. 🙂

Originally posted by Lord Feron
I do show a biased for Iceman, not because I like him because I think he can win. I have no idea what your feelings for Firestorm is but you obviously think Firestorm will win like how I think Iceman will win. I know it's hard to discern bias, I just honestly thinks he wins strictly due to his feats and accomplishments. I want to know why you think he will win.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
For all intents and purposes Team 2 wins both fights, i just don't think it's mainly due to FS.

In 'current' mode, most of my props would go to ST (because he is extremely powerful) but Jason would still play a big part, imo.

Originally posted by Galan007
Again, I meant no offense - I just don't like debating (like I've done in the past) with people who are like brick walls. Because that inevitably goes sour.

Anyhow, you seem to be quite the opposite of that, and actually reasonable, so I'll continue with a few things. 🙂

I'm not biased towards FS per se, I just honestly believe he is far more powerful/versatile, than Iceman. His feats speak for themselves.

In 'classic' mode, FS would have a very big part to play in the win. Ronnie was a powerhouse.

In 'current' mode, most of my props would go to ST (because he is extremely powerful) but Jason would still play a big part, imo.

Im in complete agreement with you actually. I just didn't word myself right.

"In 'current' mode, most of my props would go to ST (because he is extremely powerful) but Jason would still play a big part, imo."

St was very nasty back in the day and to be honest IM is nothing like he is today. Also I agree that FS would play a larger part because I don't think ST would be as big a threat to current Thor and IM as he would have been classic style.

FS is more versatile because he reminds me of a low level molecular man. Anyway why don't they have Firestorm owning like classic MM, it would be cool to see but I am unsure of what limits he has.

Thanks for not bunching me thing the think headed ones, appreciate it 🙂

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Anyway why don't they have Firestorm owning like classic MM, it would be cool to see but I am unsure of what limits he has.

Originally posted by Galan007
After Sersi aided them in pwning some random characters,
Wasp tells Firestorm to "pick a target." At this point, FS "picks" Molecule Man, and literally transmutes him into some nearby landscape:

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There's also this little gem:

Originally posted by Galan007
Firestorm traps Thor in in a "Grade-A, all-purpose atomic containment sphere":

Team 2.

Originally posted by Galan007
Funny you should say that 😖hifty::

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There's also this little gem:

Originally posted by Mindset
That's not classic MM

I just think that instance is.... Something else. ermmhappy

Thor's momma is Gaia. He does have seldom used powers over the earth its self. Just throwing that out that. A clever writer could do something with that.

True. and I think the writers of his current series are playing it up. 👆

Though, even Gaia wouldn't be able to depower Swampie.

^ marvel gaea bonded with the earth, she might not have to "de-power" him, just disrupt his control over his element.

then again, she's not in this and thor's terrakinesis or whatever is nothing like ST's or his mother's.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
^ marvel gaea bonded with the earth, she might not have to "de-power" him, just disrupt his control over his element.

then again, she's not in this and thor's terrakinesis or whatever is nothing like ST's or his mother's.

Team 2, take away bobby and give Thor a real partner.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Team 2, take away bobby and give Thor a real partner.

😕 WTF?? Thor HAS one hell of a real partner! 😕

Not for this match. Bobby is severely outgunned.

Firestorm or ST could solo

Originally posted by Comicbook_kid
😕 WTF?? Thor HAS one hell of a real partner! 😕

If we were in the low herald club maybe, but agaisnt FS and Swampy he is just a liability.