He is.
Anyway, how exactly will GR put him down for good? Assuming Bobby doesn't freeze him straight away under tonnes of ice.
Ghost Rider's fire is magical.. I don't think it can smothered. Thus, one burst of fire out of his pores or whatever would probably melt about all the ice in a multi block area...
Originally posted by Placidity
Well, he doesn't need to kill him to win though.
But he needs to incapacitate him. GR would only be down for seconds. Look at the scan, one minute there was nothing, and then the very next panel there's a sub-nuclear explosion.
Though that's GR "taking the gloves off", so to speak. So perhaps it's something only a blood lusted GR could do.
One-shot. Johnny back in the day.
Damn, that's pretty crazy, even if it was classic.
Penace stare shouldnt do jack to Iceman, Bobby is a good kid and really shouldnt be affected. So really it comes down to their opposing elements. Iceman I think could freeze GR more quickly than GR could burn through Iceman. Not to mention Iceman has the ability to shield himself. Ghost Rider is tough as hell, but I think he could be overwhelmed. Also a lot of this fight would depend on who attacked who first. Ghost Rider I think is more likely to put down Iceman while hes dealing with either of the other 2.
Originally posted by redhotrashFreezing GR wont do anything...
Penace stare shouldnt do jack to Iceman, Bobby is a good kid and really shouldnt be affected. So really it comes down to their opposing elements. Iceman I think could freeze GR more quickly than GR could burn through Iceman. Not to mention Iceman has the ability to shield himself. Ghost Rider is tough as hell, but I think he could be overwhelmed. Also a lot of this fight would depend on who attacked who first. Ghost Rider I think is more likely to put down Iceman while hes dealing with either of the other 2.
Originally posted by redhotrash
Penace stare shouldnt do jack to Iceman, Bobby is a good kid and really shouldnt be affected. So really it comes down to their opposing elements. Iceman I think could freeze GR more quickly than GR could burn through Iceman. Not to mention Iceman has the ability to shield himself. Ghost Rider is tough as hell, but I think he could be overwhelmed. Also a lot of this fight would depend on who attacked who first. Ghost Rider I think is more likely to put down Iceman while hes dealing with either of the other 2.
Iceman has probably done some things that hurt people. The PS put Strange in a coma, and Strange is a good guy.
Anyway, Johnny just does his 'giant hellfire explosion' and KO's/kills Bobby.
Originally posted by redhotrashYes, I have the comic, I also know the amount of power GR can unleash when motivated enough.
Temporarily? Did you see the amount of ice Bobby brought up against that Hetacomb thing. It'd take a long long time for GR to get out of that. Long enough to be counted as a loss at least.
You seem to be forgetting GR is a mystical character, the angel of vengeance.
Look up the character Zarathos, that's what Bobby would eventually have to contend with if Johnny can't put up a good enough fight.
Originally posted by Final Blaxican
Fire > Ice. Every time.So Ghost Rider wins, yeah.
True in terms of real life physics. I was even arguing Pyro would beat Iceman (non-iced up form) on an X-men film board and everyone was against me. Guess what, Pyro did beat him when X3 came out.
But in here, comics don't exactly follow real life science...
Plus fire can't hurt Bobby... but I don't know what would happen if he was thrown into the sun.
Anyway, even if he gets blown up or whatever, he will exist in mist/vapor form and can reform.