Hand Book for defeating Juggernught and Doomsday!!!

Started by carver95 pages

Originally posted by xJLxKing
DON'T COUNT THOR's hammer. Thor can't lift as much as Superman. Thor Can't move as fast as Superman. Thor isn't as smart as Superman. When it comes to having different powers Thor wins, but Superman is still more versatile.

Please don't start this. Superman defeated Thor nice and easy with one punch. Thor better have a nice amount of Odin force to beat Superman

This is coming from a guy who think Thor is physically stronger then Superman, who thinks Juggernaut is skyfather level. FYI Odin is skyfather level and can destroy a galaxy

Funny, I con't recall that. Can you please prove this. I mean you just keep posting some stuff I never heard of. First that Trion defeated 3 Sky father level beings. Now this? come on. Superman btw has flown DS to the Sun from earth in less then seconds. He has flown to Saturn in four minutes. Its much faster then SOL.

Despero is on Thanos' level He defeated the entire JLA

Juggernaut has walked though it, but what happen when he is thrown into the cosmos? He can't even move let alone fly. He would be just standing there while Superman pounds on him for days.


Again, read the comic with trion in it and learn what his goal was, his goal was more then anything a skyfather could accomplish or defeat alone. Trion>>>skyfather.[/quote]
Superman Prime did all those things and that doesn't put him on Skyfather level. Please post where he defeated 3 Sky fathers. Are you with drawing your statement now?
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Thor hammer IS thor and I never said that thor was stronger then superman, I said that thor is just as strong unless you have a strength feat that he failed to accomplish and superman aint close to being as versatile as thor, stop saying that.

Of course superman is going to defeat thor in a comic, its superman, hell if I was writing a book involving both I would make it so that superman would win. The book was crap anyway, superman almost got koed from a repulsor ray from iron man.

I never said that regular juggernaut is a skyfather level (even though his durability and strength is) I said that Trion is more then a sky father level being, which he is and prime didnt do anything close to what trion was doing and again read the book or go to the respect thread if you want to know who the skyfathers where.

Like I asked before, give me something where the narrator is talking about his speed, vulcan flew from earth to the other side of the universe in less then a week, are you telling me that vulcan speed is>>>>superman. Hell gladiator flew from the shiar empire which again is located on the other end of the universe to earth in one panel does that make his speed>>>>>>superman. Give me something TELLING me how fast they were going (you'll never find one.).

Despero is also a mere brick with no signs of speed and he crushed superman.

Without bfr, superman would get killed fighting juggernaut, it'll be a repeat of his fight against dos doomsday.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Superman and Thor are on the same Tier, but not power level. OMg with the most powerful attack in Marvel. LOL

I agree, thor is much, much, much more powerful then superman, hes surfer equal in output of power which superman aint even close. If thats the case hyperion is close to since he has ice breath and heat vision along with speed, etc... but he's not as powerful as either thor or surfer, not even close.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
- Plot device? Thor used a regular godblast once and the other time he severed Juggernaut's connection with cyttorak. What plot DEVICE did he use again?

- What skyfathers??

Thor god blast did nothing to juggernaut, the ground caved in and juggernaut didnt even register the blast, what are you talking about.

The other time he took juggernauts connection from cyttorrak, juggernaut ended up getting his powers back and start repeating his thrashings against thor which resulted in thor AGAIN having to battle field remove him.

Thor did nothing to the juggernaut and the only time he gave juggernaut a fight is with his powers stripped.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor god blast did nothing to juggernaut, the ground caved in and juggernaut didnt even register the blast, what are you talking about.

The other time he took juggernauts connection from cyttorrak, juggernaut ended up getting his powers back and start repeating his thrashings against thor which resulted in thor AGAIN having to battle field remove him.

Thor did nothing to the juggernaut and the only time he gave juggernaut a fight is with his powers stripped.

- What are YOU talking about? Juggernaut was stopped, forced back and then BFR'd.

- That's the point though, Thor CAN strip Juggernaut of his invulnerability. If Thor had called upon the lightning without mjolnir, Juggernaut would be dead.

- WHAT SKYFATHERS?

didnt juggernaut beat cyttorak.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
- WHAT SKYFATHERS?

😂

Thor hammer IS thor and I never said that thor was stronger then superman, I said that thor is just as strong unless you have a strength feat that he failed to accomplish and superman aint close to being as versatile as thor, stop saying that.

That doesn't define strength. It's like saying Superman gets a Sundip and say thats still Superman. When their are both at their BASE strength, Superman outclasses Thor in strength.


Of course superman is going to defeat thor in a comic, its superman, hell if I was writing a book involving both I would make it so that superman would win. The book was crap anyway, superman almost got koed from a repulsor ray from iron man.

It not Superman Comic, it was a crossover where both authors agreed on it. Superman won fair and square deal with it!


I never said that regular juggernaut is a skyfather level (even though his durability and strength is) I said that Trion is more then a sky father level being, which he is and prime didnt do anything close to what trion was doing and again read the book or go to the respect thread if you want to know who the skyfathers where.

HAHAAh, Prime has done soo many feat that put him above Trion (imo) He went through Anti-Monitor which is crazy!, he defeated Sodam(not that impressive), he broke through Dimensions, and time. He fought the entire JLA, he defeat Monarch, and he survived a Big Bang so YEAH he is strong. You actually did say he is skyfather level when you said "I cant see anyone below sky father stopping him". again you are starting to withdraw your statements.


Like I asked before, give me something where the narrator is talking about his speed, vulcan flew from earth to the other side of the universe in less then a week, are you telling me that vulcan speed is>>>>superman. Hell gladiator flew from the shiar empire which again is located on the other end of the universe to earth in one panel does that make his speed>>>>>>superman. Give me something TELLING me how fast they were going (you'll never find one.).

Most of the one I mentioned was on panel.

Despero is also a mere brick with no signs of speed and he crushed superman. [quote]
His speed is like Supermans, his strneght is above Supermans. His power are like Thanos. BTW I could say the same for Juggernaut.
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Without bfr, superman would get killed fighting juggernaut, it'll be a repeat of his fight against dos doomsday.

You mean the fight where Superman was pulling his punches to the very end? Even then they both died, then when they had a rematch Superman killed him, I wonder why?

BTW what SKY FATHER. Why are you acting like you never said it.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
- What are YOU talking about? Juggernaut was stopped, forced back and then BFR'd.

- That's the point though, Thor CAN strip Juggernaut of his invulnerability. If Thor had called upon the lightning without mjolnir, Juggernaut would be dead.

- WHAT SKYFATHERS?

Juggernaut was never stopped, he was slowed down and the ground gave in before anything else happened. Then thor melted iron over him and said that it wont hold him long, then bfred him. Thor magic did crap to juggernaut, all of his power failed.

I agree, thor is a being that can do the impossible, thats why I call him the most powerful top tier, hell the guy injured celestials and made galactus scream in pain. I agree thor has the potential of beating juggernaut because he has a sky father level weapon.

Originally posted by carver9
Juggernaut was never stopped, he was slowed down and the ground gave in before anything else happened. Then thor melted iron over him and said that it wont hold him long, then bfred him. Thor magic did crap to juggernaut, all of his power failed.

I agree, thor is a being that can do the impossible, thats why I call him the most powerful top tier, hell the guy injured celestials and made galactus scream in pain. I agree thor has the potential of beating juggernaut because he has a sky father level weapon.

Interpret the fights any way you like.

Now, WHAT SKYFATHERS??

Carver.....jugdurnaut

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Interpret the fights any way you like.

Now, WHAT SKYFATHERS??

Originally posted by skyfather
didnt juggernaut beat cyttorak.

Originally posted by skyfather

That's an odd scenario that's not very likely to repeat itself.

Cyttorak was dependent on Juggernaut for power, just like Juggernaut needed him. Stupid writing.

Besides, Carver used plural.

Isn't Cyttorak the source of his power?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Isn't Cyttorak the source of his power?

Exactly, but during that specific storyline Cyttorakt needed Juggernaut for some reason.

Originally posted by carver9
Juggernaut was never stopped, he was slowed down and the ground gave in before anything else happened. Then thor melted iron over him and said that it wont hold him long, then bfred him. Thor magic did crap to juggernaut, all of his power failed.
Juggernaut: He moves forward when he's pushed backwards.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
That's an odd scenario that's not very likely to repeat itself.

Cyttorak was dependent on Juggernaut for power, just like Juggernaut needed him. Stupid writing.

Besides, Carver used plural.

so he beat a skyfather/elder god then.

Originally posted by skyfather
so he beat a skyfather/elder god then.
who was the source of his power??? In addition, Carver stated that he defeated 3 Sky father level beings.

He beat him through the plot

Originally posted by skyfather
so he beat a skyfather/elder god then.

Although I love the Juggernaut, beating Cyttorak seems impossible just like Surfer beating Galactus. How do you beat your Benefactor? 😐

Wasn't that the gay ass humanoid looking Cyttorak anyway?

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Although I love the Juggernaut, beating Cyttorak seems impossible just like Surfer beating Galactus. How do you beat your Benefactor? 😐


That's my point. He is the source!

He knocked the Gem from his head... I guess he's a SKYFATHER LEVA!