Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
...Jaspers is as fast as he wants to be, he's an Omniversal reality warper, with a thought Jaspers can turn Darkseid to a dirty shit-stained piece of toilet paper...
😕 You guys give the New Gods very little credit they are multiversal beings as well, singular entities in the DC mutliverse. Super beings have already tried to rewrite their existence and failed.
MJJ takes this but I doubt he can do this to DS.
Originally posted by Allanklesyour giving darkseid way too much credit in this match up,jaspers too little credit.
😕 You guys give the New Gods very little credit they are multiversal beings as well, singular entities in the DC mutliverse. Super beings have already tried to rewrite their existence and failed.MJJ takes this but I doubt he can do this to DS.
mjj was on his too warping the omni verse,he was beyond nullification from the celestial nullifier.within his warp his is god.in other words he was the universe,he is eternity.
Originally posted by skyfather
your giving darkseid way too much credit in this match up,jaspers too little credit.mjj was on his too warping the omni verse,he was beyond nullification from the celestial nullifier.within his warp his is god.
The New Gods are immune to nullification. DS especially as the god of the concept of evil, when he became the god of oblivion by mastering the OE he became eternally tied to fate of the Source (the fountain of the concept of energy in DC multiverse).
You'll have to erase the very concept of energy to take them out of existence/warp them into inanimate objects. They create machines that can warp reality at will btw.
DS cannot simply be warped into whatever MJJ desires. Sure MJJ wins this 10/10 (without prep DS can't hope to match MJJ) but he isn't getting warped into paper towels or whatever.
Originally posted by Allanklesjapers becomes/ IS everthing within that universe/reality. HE IS EVERY PART OF IT.he wr-writes the laws of natures/physic.
The New Gods are immune to nullification. DS especially as the god of the concept of evil, when he became the god of oblivion by mastering the OE he became eternally tied to fate of the Source (the fountain of the concept of energy in DC multiverse).You'll have to erase the very concept of energy to take them out of existence/warp them into inanimate objects. They create machines that can warp reality at will btw.
DS cannot simply be warped into whatever MJJ desires. Sure MJJ wins this 10/10 (without prep DS can't hope to match MJJ) but he isn't getting warped into paper towels or whatever.
Originally posted by skyfather
japers becomes/ IS everthing within that universe/reality. HE IS EVERY PART OF IT.he wr-writes the laws of natures/physic.
But all that energy he uses? That's where the New Gods come from. They are the offspring of the foundation of the concept of energy. MJJ can reality warp weapons into existence to take DS out but he isn't warping DS into an inanimate object.
The New Gods are unique beings in the multiverse, attempts to nullify them out of existence etc fail. And when their universe dies all of reality is dragged along with it.
Originally posted by Allanklesin forum debates they fight in a neutral battle field,so what applies in dcu doesnt here.i dont think you understand in his universe/warps he set the laws of reality to how he wants,what say/wishes goes.
But all that energy he uses? That's where the New Gods come from. They are the offspring of the foundation of the concept of energy. MJJ can reality warp weapons into existence to take DS out but he isn't warping DS into an inanimate object.The New Gods are unique beings in the multiverse, attempts to nullify them out of existence etc fail. And when their universe dies all of reality is dragged along with it.
Originally posted by Nihilist
in forum debates they fight in a neutral battle field,so what applies in dcu doesnt here.i dont think you understand in his universe/warps he set the laws of reality to how he wants,what say/wishes goes.
That's one sided if you think about the same could apply to MJJ. The New Gods have shown resistance to nullification and can reality manip with their standard tech. Point is they are unique and eternal they can't be nullified given that they are made up of the Source's energy.
Originally posted by Allanklesnew gods cant manip reality to lvl nowhere near like jaspers can.just face it darkseid is outclassed here,or do you think ds wins.
That's one sided if you think about the same could apply to MJJ. The New Gods have shown resistance to nullification and can reality manip with their standard tech. Point is they are unique and eternal they can't be nullified given that they are made up of the Source's energy.
Originally posted by Nihilist
new gods cant manip reality to lvl nowhere near like jaspers can.just face it darkseid is outclassed here,or do you think ds wins.
A motherbox can manip reality to whatever degree required by the plot. They are said to possess the number of god. And I haven't said DS wins, I don't know where you're getting that from.
Originally posted by Allanklesyour basically saying jaspers cant warp ds,so how does japers wins seeing as all he does is reality warp/manip as his power.
A motherbox can manip reality to whatever degree required by the plot. They are said to possess the number of god. And I haven't said DS wins, I don't know where you're getting that from.
Originally posted by Nihilist
your basically saying jaspers cant warp ds,so how does japers wins seeing as all he does is reality warp/manip as his power.
So you're saying if MJJ tries to nullify DS directly and it doesn't work he's screwed? Why can't he manip himself a powerful weapon or whatever? All am saying is the New Gods seem immune to nullification.