Michael Corvin Vs. Sabertooth

no healing factors, and both have an equal level of strength

Sabretooth is a mutated human, Michael is a mutated vampire/werewolf. Corvin pwns, faster and stronger.

Corvin rips Creed's head off.

Creed 😂 He takes him higher.

But really, we haven't seen much of Creed's feats. This would be a better topic after X-men Origins comes out. Also remove the assumptions that they have equal strength and HF ... 😮

Wolverine versus Corvin would be a better thread.

Hmm... Wolverine would eventually win though.

Sure about that? Wolvie can be knocked out, you know.

Hmm... yes, now that I think about it:

- X1 - Tree branch to head.

- X2 - Bullet to head.

But then again, Michael's HF can't help him if Wolverine slices anything off, like his arm, or head.

True.

Couldn't Michael potentially heal from a missing arm? Maybe not during the fight but eventually?

Still, Corvin would pwn Sabertooth badly.

Originally posted by Madness Hero
no healing factors, and both have an equal level of strength

Actually, the bullet didn't knock him out, he got up, like a couple seconds later. But, Wolverine and Creed have skeletons made out of unbreakable metal, and claws made out of unbreakable metal, so I don't really know. Wolverine and Creed are definitely better trained fighters than Corwin though.

Creed doesn't have the adamantium skeleton or claws.

HF: Corvin>Creed. Only reason for this is because he comes back after dying. In battle, Creed might actually have a superior HF.

Durability: Corvin>Creed

Strength: ?

Speed/Agility: Creed>Corvin

The feats that come to mind...

Corvin:
- Stabs his hands through Lycans with ease
- Rips the first and most powerful Lycan's head off.
- Regenerates after dying.

Creed:
- Being very agile (Origins Trailer)
- Wacks Wolvie some distance with a big ass tree.
- Recovers quickly after being stabbed by 6 blades into the chest/lungs (at which point he yells in pain which he shouldn't be able to 😉 )
- Recovers quickly after being struck by lightning.

Actually, the only reason he really won the fight with William so easily is because he had been confined in a tomb for 800 years with no food, blood, or water.

Although it would be a good fight to see regardless.

Originally posted by KingD19
Actually, the only reason he really won the fight with William so easily is because he had been confined in a tomb for 800 years with no food, blood, or water.

Well, that might be the reason. But its still pure speculation. Afterall, he is immortal, he doesn't need food or water. Lycan's also don't need blood, Vampires do.

Also, it wouldn't be so far-fetched to believe Corvin is powerful enough to take William at his peak anyway if we go with your speculation.

One important thing to remember is that Lycans don't grow more powerful over time like Elder Vampires. So William, after the centuries, is still only a Lycan and theres no real reason to think he can take a Hydrid.

Originally posted by Placidity
Hmm... yes, now that I think about it:

- X1 - Tree branch to head.

- X2 - Bullet to head.

But then again, Michael's HF can't help him if Wolverine slices anything off, like his arm, or head.

What about X3? Juggernaught to the head didn't do squat. 😬

Originally posted by Placidity
Well, that might be the reason. But its still pure speculation. Afterall, he is immortal, he doesn't need food or water. Lycan's also don't need blood, Vampires do.

Originally posted by Placidity
Also, it wouldn't be so far-fetched to believe Corvin is powerful enough to take William at his peak anyway if we go with your speculation.

Originally posted by Placidity
One important thing to remember is that Lycans don't grow more powerful over time like Elder Vampires.

Originally posted by Placidity
So William, after the centuries, is still only a Lycan and theres no real reason to think he can take a Hydrid.

Originally posted by Placidity
Creed doesn't have the adamantium skeleton or claws.

HF: Corvin>Creed. Only reason for this is because he comes back after dying. In battle, Creed might actually have a superior HF.

In battle I don't think "might" even covers it. More like definitely.
Creed took 6 adamantium claws to his chest in the area of the heart, lungs, and aorta all in the same fight and wasn't even phased. Corvin took a pole to the chest and was down for the count.

Originally posted by Placidity
Durability: Corvin>Creed

Originally posted by Placidity
Speed/Agility: Creed>Corvin

Basing this off X1 because I haven't seen origins.

Originally posted by jinzin
But you're assuming that Werewolves wouldn't be equally weakened by being put in confinement as Vampires as well. Given how weak Victor was, and given the fact that William was tombed up even longer than that, if Werewolves need any food for sustenance and strength then it's not unreasonable to assume that William was messed up somethin fierce.
It'd be a bit illogical to think that they were raiding country sides because they're mean. I would assume it was for food.

Wanting food and needing food is completely different. Vampires are weakened after their slumber because they require blood. Lycans don't. If Lycans require food, then William should've turned into a little skinny werewolf after 800 years, that's exactly what happens to Elder Vampires. Don't get me wrong, I'm not in a position to dismiss your theory, but mine makes more sense to me.

Originally posted by jinzin

Uh.. Yeah it is, considering the fact that Victor overpowered Micheal and Victor would be nowhere close to Williams strength if vamp/werewolf strength is proportional between pawns and elders....

Victor has how many years of experience of fighting compared to Michael? Who pretty much got his powers on the same day. He was not only inexperienced, but I would say he put up a good fight but lost. But I don't understand the point you are trying to make... Your example compares Hybrids to Vampires. Where does William/Lycans come in?

Originally posted by jinzin

What the hell did you base that crazy assumption off of? They even outright state in the first movie that older Lycans are more powerful... 😕

Show me ... 😕

Originally posted by jinzin
"only a lycan"... yeah that several vampyre elders didn't want anything to do with without their army.

Which event are you referring to? I'd like to point out Victor has on two occasions killed a Lycan with a single punch and man-handled one with one hand without effort.

Originally posted by jinzin
And he isn't a lycan... he's a werewolf... Lycans are the halfbreeds spawned from Lucian I thought that's been made fairly clear by now.

No... Lycan is the term for werewolves in Underworld. They different kinds are differentiated by 1st and 2nd Generations.

Originally posted by jinzin
In battle I don't think "might" even covers it. More like definitely.
Creed took 6 adamantium claws to his chest in the area of the heart, lungs, and aorta all in the same fight and wasn't even phased. Corvin took a pole to the chest and was down for the count.

Not sure how you came to that conclusion. Creed got blasted through a train station and got up. He was concious after getting blasted by Cyclops too. Corvin got messed up from a couple Victor punches.

Originally posted by Placidity

Speed/Agility: Creed>Corvin

The feats that come to mind...

Corvin:
- Stabs his hands through Lycans with ease
- Rips the first and most powerful Lycan's head off.
- Regenerates after dying.

Creed:
- Being very agile (Origins Trailer)
- Wacks Wolvie some distance with a big ass tree.
- Recovers quickly after being stabbed by 6 blades into the chest/lungs (at which point he yells in pain which he shouldn't be able to 😉 )
- Recovers quickly after being struck by lightning.

Ok, you're using the feats I listed against me like I didn't already know about them...

But anyway, Corvin deals with all the crap despite having a weaker HF, that has to be attributed to his durability. Creed, has a better HF, but I dunno if his durability is equally high, so I guess I'm just speculating. But after thinking about it, I think you've convinced me...

Durability: Creed>Corvin

Originally posted by jinzin

Corvin agility. Corvin speed.

Basing this off X1 because I haven't seen origins.

I don't recall any real speed or agility feats from Michael. But if you watch the Origins trailer, I think you will change your mind.