Superman, Wonder Woman, Black Adam vs WWHulk, Silver Surfer, Thor in Gladiator Brawl

Originally posted by Naija boy
His durability does help him but strength wise i have to admit he is probably at the bottom especially with no amping. But since u said only physical attacks, does he get his board?

Originally posted by Naija boy
By versatile what exactly do u mean? (it certainly cant be in regards to his exotic powers, which are unusable in this fight )

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Superman is the most strongest and versatile

Heh. I'd say Surfer was the strongest.

*hides from Raoul and Avlon*

Originally posted by Starscream M
yes..and he can use it to attack as well...since its not energy based

Well since he gets his board, this mayy not be as one sided as i initially thought. While on his board surfer can match and exceed the speed of anyone else in this fight and can use it for bullrushes/ramming.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Well since he gets his board, this mayy not be as one sided as i initially thought. While on his board surfer can match and exceed the speed of anyone else in this fight and can use it for bullrushes/ramming.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Well since he gets his board, this mayy not be as one sided as i initially thought. While on his board surfer can match and exceed the speed of anyone else in this fight and can use it for bullrushes/ramming.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Heh. I'd say Surfer was the strongest.

*hides from Raoul and Avlon*

i'm not even angry, just disappointed... facepalm

Originally posted by Raoul
i'm not even angry, just disappointed... facepalm

I'm basing it off the fact that he was able to overpower and outfight Hulk as well as what, four other class 100+ characters at the same time, while unamped and weakened. The same Hulk he overpowered (easily) was able to shift planetary tectonic plates and hold them together with brute strength.

And Surfer's been upgraded since (to the point of him overpowering Ravenous and having him on his knees begging to understand.)

Hell, classic Surfer physically stalemated a Quantum Band wielding Champion, who said he was stronger than when he wielded the PG.

There you have it. 😛

Originally posted by Enyalus
I'm basing it off the fact that he was able to overpower and outfight Hulk as well as what, four other class 100+ characters at the same time, while unamped and weakened. The same Hulk he overpowered (easily) was able to shift planetary tectonic plates and hold them together with brute strength.

And Surfer's been upgraded since (to the point of him overpowering Ravenous and having him on his knees begging to understand.)

Hell, classic Surfer physically stalemated a Quantum Band wielding Champion, who said he was stronger than when he wielded the PG.

There you have it. 😛

Im not sure it was actually the Q bands that champion was wielding.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Im not sure it was actually the Q bands that champion was wielding.

It wasn't. They were an alien replica that worked exactly like the Q-bands that they were modeled after.

I called them that because it was shorter than explaining it. Thanks a lot. 😛

EDIT: And with regard to Surfer's fighting skill, he was able to easily disarm Valkyre (sp?) - who had all the fighting skills that Thor did. He simply gets a bad rap because of the stigma surrounding him. He's not a bad H2H fighter at all.

Surfer without amping would be beat by anybody on team one but thats just in my opinion but that gives team one the win.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I'm basing it off the fact that he was able to overpower and outfight Hulk as well as what, four other class 100+ characters at the same time, while unamped and weakened. The same Hulk he overpowered (easily) was able to shift planetary tectonic plates and hold them together with brute strength.

And Surfer's been upgraded since (to the point of him overpowering Ravenous and having him on his knees begging to understand.)

Hell, classic Surfer physically stalemated a Quantum Band wielding Champion, who said he was stronger than when he wielded the PG.

There you have it. 😛

no, still disappointed.

Originally posted by Enyalus
It wasn't. They were an alien replica that worked exactly like the Q-bands that they were modeled after.

I called them that because it was shorter than explaining it. Thanks a lot. 😛

EDIT: And with regard to Surfer's fighting skill, he was able to easily disarm Valkyre (sp?) - who had all the fighting skills that Thor did. He simply gets a bad rap because of the stigma surrounding him. He's not a bad H2H fighter at all.

Hehe. Maybe i should hve just let people believe that they were the actual Q bands 😖hifty:

And yeah surfer really isnt such a bad H2h fighter. He has shown this numerous times. Having his board in this match is an added advantage as well.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Surfer without amping would be beat by anybody on team one but thats just in my opinion but that gives team one the win.

I think he'd be able to bullrush Diana for a KO, but that's the only win I see him getting against Team One.

Think about it - Diana's head slamming into an adamantium wall at FTL speeds isn't going to be a pretty sight.

Originally posted by Raoul
no, still disappointed.

But, but, but...I agreed that Team One won. 🙁

Originally posted by Enyalus
I think he'd be able to bullrush Diana for a KO, but that's the only win I see him getting against Team One.

Think about it - Diana's head slamming into an adamantium wall at FTL speeds isn't going to be a pretty sight.

Really if surfer was just a little more ruthless, hed change the shape of his board into that razor like shape that exiles surfer uses and simply decapitate most of his opponents.

Originally posted by Enyalus
But, but, but...I agreed that Team One won. 🙁

your explanation was lacking.

Originally posted by Raoul
your explanation was lacking.

It was your explanation I used!

😛

But okay, here goes:

Kal and Diana have superior H2H skills than either WWH or Norrin. And everyone on team one has a H2H speed advantage over anyone on team two. That, IMO, is why they pull the win here.

Originally posted by Enyalus
It was your explanation I used!

😛

But okay, here goes:

Kal and Diana have superior H2H skills than either WWH or Norrin. And everyone on team one has a H2H speed advantage over anyone on team two. That, IMO, is why they pull the win here.

i meant this:

Originally posted by Enyalus
I'm basing it off the fact that he was able to overpower and outfight Hulk as well as what, four other class 100+ characters at the same time, while unamped and weakened. The same Hulk he overpowered (easily) was able to shift planetary tectonic plates and hold them together with brute strength.

And Surfer's been upgraded since (to the point of him overpowering Ravenous and having him on his knees begging to understand.)

Hell, classic Surfer physically stalemated a Quantum Band wielding Champion, who said he was stronger than when he wielded the PG.

There you have it. 😛

Originally posted by Raoul
i meant this:

Oh, that. I used the falliciously delicious ABC logic. Even leaving out the fact that Hulk was lifting and moving literally hundreds of billions of tons with each arm and a depowered Surfer overpowered him, there's still Champion - powerful enough to one-shot a planet...and by his own words, more powerful with the bands...who Surfer was able to stalemate. Both of those examples were at his classic levels (the Champion example was even before the Blackbody upgrade). He's stronger now, or just more ruthless (depending on your take of Annihilation.)

...Basically, I used ABC logic to defend my point, since Surfer doesn't do things like pulling moons.

EDIT: Holy Run-On Sentence, Batman!