Originally posted by Avlon
Supes > Thor (already on panel)
Supes = Darkseid (At least the version used here)Thanos/Supes/DS > Thor.
Well I guess since we're using on panel crossovers then venom>superman, both dc and marvel writers agreed that venom can take superman.
Thor>supes, thor is overrall more versatile and powerful then supes.
Originally posted by carver9The venom/supes thing was not canon. supes/thor was canon acknowledged by both companies.
Well I guess since we're using on panel crossovers then venom>superman, both dc and marvel writers agreed that venom can take superman.Thor>supes, thor is overrall more versatile and powerful then supes.
Originally posted by carver9Aahhhh.......But superman and thor are so close in power that it was very conceivable that either one could have won, supes just happened to get the telling blow in first, And you'll have to admit that supes/venom was pure writers PIS bull.
I know it wasnt cannon but it was still decided and judged by both dc and marvel writters. There isnt a difference except they just made one cannon and left the other alone.
Originally posted by lawest9
Aahhhh.......But superman and thor are so close in power that it was very conceivable that either one could have won, supes just happened to get the telling blow in first, And you'll have to admit that supes/venom was pure writers PIS bull.
I agree, it was pure bull crap just like the superman vs thor fight was. Superman catching a hammer that has enough power to wreck a planet is full of pis but if I was the writter then yes superman would win, no matter what because he's superman. Then after superman takes out thor he almost get koed by a repulsor ray blast by ironman, just dont make since to me.
Originally posted by Avlon
So then Black Panther > Surfer, Spidey > Firelord, and Aquaman > Probe in your opinion?
If your going by crossovers then yes but I dont believe in crossovers even if they make in cannon because no matter what it will always be decided off of popularity. I agree, superman can beat thor but for a majority, hell no. I think that glads is> and he is my favorite character but I still wont give him a majority over thor, thor has to much raw power and if thor can damage a celestial, he shouldnt have a problem hitting either of these opponents strong enough to take them out permanently.
Originally posted by carver9I agree that thor has the pure energetic powers to beat superman and the hulk both but not supes in a pure H2H fight, but he used to be written as being able to hang with hulk physically but that has changed in recent years and as a thor fan as well as a superman fan this frustrates me, Thor with his mystical energetic powers should be able to vaporize the hulk.
If your going by crossovers then yes but I dont believe in crossovers even if they make in cannon because no matter what it will always be decided off of popularity. I agree, superman can beat thor but for a majority, hell no. I think that glads is> and he is my favorite character but I still wont give him a majority over thor, thor has to much raw power and if thor can damage a celestial, he shouldnt have a problem hitting either of these opponents strong enough to take them out permanently.
personally, i don't agree about most crossovers, but jla/avengers was written by kurt busiek, a man intimately familiar with both teams, as he's written some of the best arcs ever written about several of the characters.
even if its not canon, and its fine with me if its not, its the closest we're ever going to get a fair, balanced crossover imo...
Originally posted by Avlon
Supes > Thor (already on panel)
Superman won one fight with Thor and it was still a hard fought battle. Both admitted their foe were tough. It's hardly an indication that Supes > Thor if they fought a second or third time around. It could have easily gone in Thor's favor as well if he blocked Superman's HV with Mjlornir and redirect a blast back at Supes.
With that said, team 2 takes it. Thanos has been superior to Thor in most encounters. And Superman's has had a number of wins against Darkseid and vice versa. Either Superman beats Darkseid or hold him off long enough for Thanos to join the battle.
Originally posted by Raoul
personally, i don't agree about most crossovers, but jla/avengers was written by kurt busiek, a man intimately familiar with both teams, as he's written some of the best arcs ever written about several of the characters.even if its not canon, and its fine with me if its not, its the closest we're ever going to get a fair, balanced crossover imo...