Jla vs Xmen enemies

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Should have added..

Cassandra Nova and Selene instead of Shaw and Sabertooth...

Cassandra Nova could definitely pose a problem.

There's always Mikhail, Darkchild, MJJ and Jamie but we're entering reality warping territory there.

I didnt want to use reality warper, I could have easily made this a proteus vs jla thread and proteus would win 10/10 and EASILY without even breaking a sweet.

Glads wouls surely lose to an all out Orion and that's a fact, jack.

Originally posted by cloud102
Glads wouls surely lose to an all out Orion and that's a fact, jack.

A orion using all of his abilities, I agree but a grounded orion would get ripped in half.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Some people seem to have a hard time seeing the difference between CIS and PIS.

aye.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Should have added..

Cassandra Nova and Selene instead of Shaw and Sabertooth...

Cassandra Nova could definitely pose a problem.

There's always Mikhail, Darkchild, Goblyn Queen, MJJ and Jamie but we're entering reality warping territory there.

might help.

Originally posted by carver9
I didnt realize who I was debating against, how are you doing raoul, long time no debate.

I'm just going to say it like this, I can put up a lot of on panel proof of superman along with orion getting hit with every punch thats thrown from a brick, its just that simple. Now flash, that would be hard to do.

You do know that superman was AMPED when he pushed war world, Im pretty sure if hulk got mad enough he could possible throw war world since he did gather enough strength to punch through a time stream.

How are you saying that they could breach something that has never been breached. Youre basically saying that they could also punch through adamantium since its the jla.

Proof on what, that juggernaut is > konvikt, thats easy. Juggernaut soloed the exemplers who is =/ more powerful then thor. Juggernaut one shotted the stranger, arrow pierced konvikt skin but thor god blast didnt cause juggernaut any kind of harm. Its up for you to prove that konvikt is as powerful or is more powerful then juggernaut since he dont have many showings and please dont use the fact that he fought the jla because hulk fought the avengers and hulk and juggernaut are equals.

Who on the jla split a small planet with brute strength, not talking about flying through one or hyperbole, I'm talking about on panel PROOF because if were using hyperbole then hulk has infinite strength, Wolverine is the best fighter there is, and as much as you hate it, wonder woman is faster then superman. 😛

Exodus has enough control over his tk that he could move a island, Im pretty sure it would be easy for him to tk orion to another state since orion is on his feet in this battle.

I apologize about you thinking I'm trolling but I could have sworn that I read where flash dont go the speed of light anymore due to him suffering a heart attack (or was it a heart attack, I forgot what happened).

Glads>anyone on the field and thats fact.

you honestly want me to answer when a) you havent been keeping up on flash comics, b) are stating that your opinion = fact, and c) seem to have not read the debating rules for the forum?

Originally posted by carver9
I didnt want to use reality warper, I could have easily made this a proteus vs jla thread and proteus would win 10/10 and EASILY without even breaking a sweet.

Hmm Nova might be overkill...but I think she might even things out. Maybe Xorn the one with a black hole for a head. I don't think that Villian team you have there can cope with the sheer amount of raw power.

Originally posted by carver9
A orion using all of his abilities, I agree but a grounded orion would get ripped in half.

Grounded? what are you talking about?

Originally posted by cloud102
Grounded? what are you talking about?

Not flying I think.

Originally posted by Raoul
aye.

might help.

you honestly want me to answer when a) you havent been keeping up on flash comics, b) are stating that your opinion = fact, and c) seem to have not read the debating rules for the forum?

Thats why we debate, to convince each other of the truth, you have done that to me numerous of times and made me realize things that I should have corrected. I know what I say isnt fact and there are a lot of people on here who are convincing and provide enough proof.

I read the rules but I think that people are overdoing it just a bit. Got a question for you, vulcan, you know the xmen enemy flew across the universe in less then a week, that feat alone is>> any of superman feats, surfer, flew across the universe in a panel along with gladiator, that should make there reactian/ movements millions and millions of times faster then the speed of light and that should down right put them faster then anyone in comics. With that said, do you think that superman can hit them?

Originally posted by Anti-Monitor
Not flying I think.

💃

Originally posted by carver9
Jla roster

Superman
Green lantern (kyle)
Flash (current flash)
Wonder woman
Orion (without all of his exotic powers, hes at his brick level when he fight superman)
Martian manhunter
Aquaman
Hawkman

vs

Apocalypse
Magneto (shields up)
Exodus
Mr. Sinister
Sebastian shaw
Juggernaut
Gladiator
Holocaust
Sabertooth (with all of his upgrades, couldnt think of any other villian)

JLA. Flash will blitz most of them as soon as the fight starts. Juggernaut will have to bfr'd though.

Originally posted by carver9

Got a question for you, vulcan, you know the xmen enemy flew across the universe in less then a week, that feat alone is>> any of superman feats,

facepalm

JLA probably stomps

Glads would get owned by either Superman or Orion. Current Superman would outright beat him down. Flash, Wonder Woman and Orion would just wreck the rest before they even know what's going on.

Originally posted by The Pict
JLA. Flash will blitz most of them as soon as the fight starts. Juggernaut will have to bfr'd though.

facepalm

So who would flash take out since majority of the team can fly and has high end durability. We all know for a fact unless you have small knowledge of the characters that sebastian shaw could absorb anything that flash throws at him and lets not forget that we have tk's on the field that could easily remove flash from the battle with just a thought.

Orion cant be grounded. Unless he wants to. His Astro Harness is an extension of him and can be created on a whim. Plus he can fly without the harness , so that doesn't matter.

Originally posted by Francisco
Glads would get owned by either Superman or Orion. Current Superman would outright beat him down. Flash, Wonder Woman and Orion would just wreck the rest before they even know what's going on.

and you're basing this off offffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff because on panel glads>anyone on the field and thats strength,durability and speed wise. Lets not forget that fire storm trapped orion in a titanium block that he couldnt get out of but gladiator walked through a titanium door like it was paper to get to the xmen. 🙁

Originally posted by carver9
So who would flash take out since majority of the team can fly and has high end durability. We all know for a fact unless you have small knowledge of the characters that sebastian shaw could absorb anything that flash throws at him and lets not forget that we have tk's on the field that could easily remove flash from the battle with just a thought.

ugh3

Have you read a Flash comic before?

U could probably knock off 1 or 2 members of the JLA team and theyd still win

Originally posted by The Pict
ugh3

Have you read a Flash comic before?

Love him even though I'm not up to date, I guess you dont think tk works against him huh. Have you ever read a marvel comic before.

Originally posted by carver9
and you're basing this off offffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff because on panel glads>anyone on the field and thats strength,durability and speed wise. Lets not forget that fire storm trapped orion in a titanium block that he couldnt get out of but gladiator walked through a titanium door like it was paper to get to the xmen. 🙁

Glads got beaten by Gambit and Death bird.. Then he got punched down by Cannon ball.. His powers fluctuate way too much to be a threat to current Superman.
By the way Glads also got beaten by the Hulk who couldn't fly.. I don't see a reason for Orion who's just as strong and as ill tempered as the Hulk not to be able to also give him the beating of his life.

Originally posted by carver9
Love him even though I'm not up to date, I guess you dont think tk works against him huh. Have you ever read a marvel comic before.

I have 10 times as much Marvel as DC. I prefer Marvel over DC, I just recognise when some characters are superior to others. As is the case here.
Vulcan's 1 feat >> every Superman feat? Shaw absorbing blows from Flash? Anyone acting fast enough to bfr Flash? Just stop posting for a while.