Originally posted by Enyalus
Still Onslaught.Magnetism on that cosmic glaze has gotta be worth something. And then there's slapping Phoenix around on the astral plane in his base form...plus instantaneous shields.
Magnetism wont work at all and im not sure how wise it would be to take a fight to the astral plain against surfer ( he is supposedly invincible there).
However, onslaught still probably wins
Originally posted by Enyaluswho says the glaze is actual metal?
Still Onslaught.Magnetism on that cosmic glaze has gotta be worth something. And then there's slapping Phoenix around on the astral plane in his base form...plus instantaneous shields.
also, the power cosmic grants control over the four fundamental forces of the universe (among other things), one of those forces is the entire electo-magnetic spectrum. current silver surfer is far stronger than the one from the nineties.
but that aside, onslaught in his entirety seems to be more powerful than the surfer (i think), he's an entity capable of altering reality.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
who says the glaze is actual metal?also, the power cosmic grants control over the four fundamental forces of the universe (among other things), one of those forces is the entire electo-magnetic spectrum. current silver surfer is far stronger than the one from the nineties.
Yeah, Naija pointed that out. Had forgotten about the PC's plot device nature.
And this seems to be first-form Onslaught.
Originally posted by janus77
Surfer, FTW. this would be like fighting UniLord, I guess.
Err... When surfer fought unilord he had absorbed a blackbody... Which was a portion of the unilord... That allowed him to tap into the same power base as unilord... And eventually have all of the power...
I can't see any correlation between this fight and the unilord... How is surfer gonna absorb an aspect of onslaught?!
And what says surfer is invincible in the astral plane?
In silver surfer the end I think. It was said thatsurfer is coated in a techo skin that gives him his abilities but that eventually it was killing him. I don't remember if it said it was a metal based or not.
Btw didnt Onslaughts first form removed the gem of cyttorak from juggernaught?
Surfer FTW..
Onslaught might be tad stronger in teh psi plane but Surfer is not defenseless in there either and if he so wishes to get out this plane (losing) it wouldn't be a problem..
Dont think Onslaught 1st form possess any reality altering abilities but if im mistaken, he can fight off this form of attack.. His done it against Ellie and Marduk both i think are global reality manipulator..
Surfer is a high energy manipulator, Onslaught is made off energy (psi).. Disrupting this energy would probably have some kinda effect against onslaught.. There's also BFR for a quick win or just onslaught of massive energy blast for a win..
Originally posted by rotiart
Err... When surfer fought unilord he had absorbed a blackbody... Which was a portion of the unilord... That allowed him to tap into the same power base as unilord... And eventually have all of the power...I can't see any correlation between this fight and the unilord... How is surfer gonna absorb an aspect of onslaught?!
And what says surfer is invincible in the astral plane?
In silver surfer the end I think. It was said thatsurfer is coated in a techo skin that gives him his abilities but that eventually it was killing him. I don't remember if it said it was a metal based or not.
Btw didnt Onslaughts first form removed the gem of cyttorak from juggernaught?
Surfer's got the ability to harness and manipulate all sorts of energies, including the kind that Onslaught is made of. his powers on the astral plane are pretty impressive too.. though not sure if that's gonna be somewhere he wants to take Onslaught though.
Originally posted by janus77
the End is non-cannon and definitely not reliable as an indication of what Surfer is made of.Surfer's got the ability to harness and manipulate all sorts of energies, including the kind that Onslaught is made of. his powers on the astral plane are pretty impressive too.. though not sure if that's gonna be somewhere he wants to take Onslaught though.
Okay. I'll give that the end may not be canon
However surfer has remade cities, absorbed the the of stars to supercharge himself, healed others. Purged himself... Showed telepathic skills... Etc.
But he hasn't manipulated the psi energy that makes up psi beings
Originally posted by rotiart
Okay. I'll give that the end may not be canonHowever surfer has remade cities, absorbed the the of stars to supercharge himself, healed others. Purged himself... Showed telepathic skills... Etc.
But he hasn't manipulated the psi energy that makes up psi beings
Well surfer did absorb the psycho mans psychokinetic energy. (psycho uses it to control people)