Originally posted by tsscls
Even so, Harry Truman set a precedence which allowed presidents to invoke executive privilege even after the expiration of their terms, which would render the prosecution of one a moot point. Does he mention how you would get around this in his book? If so, I might read it.
A precedent isn't a law. Bush of course may try to invoke this Truman BS, but I'm sure the SC would knock it down.
Originally posted by tsscls
I just bought the book on Amazon, and I'd like to flip right ahead to these (IMO) important arguments when I recieve it next week.
At least you are showing curiosity.
Originally posted by BigRed
I'm glad you bought it. Off the top of my head I can't tell you what page he does. I'm pretty sure he does. Once I get the book in front of me, I'll direct you to it.At least you are showing curiosity.
You can't have a truly informed debate unless you a well-versed in both sides of the argument.
Originally posted by BigRed
I'm informed of the Truman thing.I don't know if it is specifically mentioned in a book though.
Originally posted by tsscls
I'll tell you what, since I've got the book ordered, I'll put a hold on all discussion of it and the issues it discusses. I will be sure to bump this thread and tell you how full of shit you are when I read it.
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Originally posted by leonheartmm
any who thinks bush isnt a murderer, go SHOOT your eyes off, since they dont seem to be doing u much good anyway.
I will do that. As soon as I figure out what I'm going to shoot them out of.
Some sort of modified shotgun? I'll need a safe area to shoot them off in, maybe I'll look up some local shooting ranges. Finally, I'll need a target. Although this may be extraneous given the fact that I won't be able to see, because i'm shooting my eyes off.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
any who thinks bush isnt a murderer, go SHOOT your eyes off, since they dont seem to be doing u much good anyway.
exactly.well said.Clinton and Bush are BOTH mass murderers.There wont be anything done about Bush though.as anybody in the united states knows,theres one different law for politicians and one different one for citizens.politicians get away with crimes constantly that we would NEVER be able to get away with.Presidents in particular,can get away with anything.for example,both dick nixon and Bill clinton lied under oath to a supreme court yet no punishment was ever given to nixon or clinton.the worst nixon had to do was quit his job.sheesh what severe punishment that is. 🙄 Great thread Big Red. 👆 👆
Originally posted by inimalist
There is a difference between fundamentalism and Jihad. iirc Saddam financially supported the families of suicide bombers and in 1999 offered asylum to Bin Laden. Politics make strange bedfellows.http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2846365.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/1999/feb/06/julianborger
(notice the guardian article is dated 1999)
Oh, I'm not arguing that point. But I do know that he, while a nut in his own right, was often a source of condemnation when it came to the actions of other terrorists.
Probably something that sticks out to me about Bush (and this is just to keep from picking out the obvious horrid policy blunders (and I ****ing hate sugarcoating it -- to be honest, I think Bush is a criminal)) is his arrogance and cocky attitude. Just that smug look he always has on his face, especially when giving speeches.
And especially when being confronted on his '****-ups'. I noticed this specifically in his interview on Larry King Live on Tuesday. He will not outright admit he made mistakes. He'll say mistakes were made. But he won't say he made the mistakes. I don't like that at all. Makes me want to punch him in the ****ing face.
Seriously, I was always hoping for a day to come when Bush would come visit Cincinnati (he sure likes Cincinnati -- used this location as a starting point to win over the American people for his atrocious Iraq invasion) and we'd cross paths. He has that smug look on his face and he offers me his hand to shake and I keep my hands firmly by my side and don't give that bastard the respect he doesn't deserve in shaking his hand.
The fact that he has/had the label of Presidency over him makes no difference.