Re: Re: Fack Emma Frigid
Originally posted by wannabe
To put it in short:
1. She's waaayyy longer a hero now than she's ever been a villain.
2. She may be cocky and arrogant, but she proved herself to be an extremely valid, caring and most of all a reliable teammate to the X-Men hundreds of times over the years.
3. Even the Phoenix herself acknowledged Emma's genuine love for Scott.
4. The team accepted a real killer like Logan, a villain like Rogue, a thief like Gambit and archenemies like Juggs and Mystique. They accept all the other teammembers' personality quirks as long as they stay true to the team, so why shouldn't they accept Emma?
Thanks to the first reply and this one, now though
1). umm no she hasn't, check the marvel timeline, I remember her being a villain (part of the Hellfire club) when I first started reading X-Men back in the early '80's, and was still a villain when I read New Warriors Annual 1 or 2 (Hunter Killers?) she was in the New Warriors top ten villains list at number 5 or 6 and was listed a the White Queen and her Hellions I believe.
2). well now maybe she has, but she is powerful and could mask true intentions at least sometimes, and yes, maybe she has lately, but it seems to be almost with a coddling or superior attitude (mind this is only from the few I have read, I buy alot and am almost caught back up so maybe it will be more towards how you say then)but I am sure that as many times as she has helped them, ( I am figuring more in the tens then hundreds) and for the number of years she has, I am still sure that the times she tried to kill them etc has still been more.
3). Oh yes the Phoenix... I don't trust anything that she says, she has her own ends, now if it was more Jean, well even still I don't know. But I did not read that comic so I will accept this one fully.
4). Logan was one f'ed with dude, The Prof knew, and he knew that at his core he was one of if not the best Team member, best friend, mentor etc and that he would die for any of them, so he doesn't count, Rogue was a Kid man, she was not some fully grown Woman who masterminded evil plans, she was a kid who was duped by one of the greatest villains to the X-man, and she was scared, she came to the X-men and only the Prof. had her back, everyone else hated and did not trust her for years upon years ( how long did it take the x-men to accept Emma? no time by comparison) And as for Gambit, come on... he was a thief, not a killer or truly evil minded person, and he felt true guilt and disdain for his past, comparing these three to Emma is at least to me like comparing 3 juvenile delinquents to Charles Manson. Now we get to Jugs (I love that nickname lol) and ms mystake (sorry still have the wolverine story where he was to kill her in my head) granted they are bad people, but they are as well not really leaders to the point that Emma ever was, God, Magneto was not accepted into the team until after Moira altered his DNA so he would not go crazy again (Jim Lee X-Men 1-3 and Uncanny X-men damn, canna 'member right now).
Plus that BS she did with Scott to Prof. X just recently, who the F is she to judge? perhaps that is my true issue with her, that she acts like she has always been good and others are just beneath her, at any rate, I know she will be back to being the True Emma at some point, even if it takes until I start being able to write for Marvel.