Celestials vs Magic

Originally posted by Mindset
So your stance is that his staff is as strong as the Quintessence and the Source? Sure thing buddy.

Insults don't make you seem any smarter, especially when you think his staff is stronger than the Celestials in this thread.

There's about as much evidence that Mxy was no longer weakened than there is that he was. Annataz wasn't as strong as Mxy, but she was still able to keep him from his powers. Anyway, the point is you don't have to be stronger than him to take his powers.

I don't even know why I'm continuing this discussion, Mxy was indirectly depowered by DOV Spectre, that isn't proof of Nabu being stronger than the Celestials because he was able to fight off Spectre for awhile.

That same staff would demolish the Celestials. The Quintessence's magic is enough to beat the entire race of Celestials. Adding a fraction of the power of The Source is overkill IMO.

Enough with the bias.
You guys seem to think that the Celestials are the most powerful physical aspects in the MU. When technically, there are other which are stronger (ie. The Infinites)

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Gog's staff is logically superior than the Celestials, since it has a fraction of The Source's power and the magic of The Quintessence.

That same staff would demolish the Celestials. The Quintessence's magic is enough to beat the entire race of Celestials. Adding a fraction of the power of The Source is overkill IMO.

Enough with the bias.
You guys seem to think that the Celestials are the most powerful physical aspects in the MU. When technically, there are other which are stronger (ie. The Infinites)

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Gog's staff is logically superior than the Celestials, since it has a fraction of The Source's power and the magic of The Quintessence.

That same staff would demolish the Celestials. The Quintessence's magic is enough to beat the entire race of Celestials. Adding a fraction of the power of The Source is overkill IMO.

Enough with the bias.
You guys seem to think that the Celestials are the most powerful physical aspects in the MU. When technically, there are other which are stronger (ie. The Infinites)

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Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Gog's staff is logically superior than the Celestials, since it has a fraction of The Source's power and the magic of The Quintessence.

That same staff would demolish the Celestials. The Quintessence's magic is enough to beat the entire race of Celestials. Adding a fraction of the power of The Source is overkill IMO.

Enough with the bias.
You guys seem to think that the Celestials are the most powerful physical aspects in the MU. When technically, there are other which are stronger (ie. The Infinites)

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Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Gog's staff is logically superior than the Celestials, since it has a fraction of The Source's power and the magic of The Quintessence.

That same staff would demolish the Celestials. The Quintessence's magic is enough to beat the entire race of Celestials. Adding a fraction of the power of The Source is overkill IMO.

Enough with the bias.
You guys seem to think that the Celestials are the most powerful physical aspects in the MU. When technically, there are other which are stronger (ie. The Infinites)

At first the Infinities seemed very powerful, but fell flat at the end.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I still don't see any Spectre being able to defeat them without an outside amp.

Jim Corrigan (Original Omnipotent Spectre) > Celestials

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Gog's staff is logically superior than the Celestials, since it has a fraction of The Source's power and the magic of The Quintessence.

That same staff would demolish the Celestials. The Quintessence's magic is enough to beat the entire race of Celestials. Adding a fraction of the power of The Source is overkill IMO.

Enough with the bias.
You guys seem to think that the Celestials are the most powerful physical aspects in the MU. When technically, there are other which are stronger (ie. The Infinites)

I'm sure plenty of guys like Metron and others who haven't any business whatsoever standing in the same room as a big wuss like Superman have resisted the Source or escaped from it. A fraction means nothing. The Source is grossly overhyped like many cosmic end-all-be-alls, but the Celestials actually deserve their reputation of omnipotence. The Quintessence are five guys who aren't even skyfathers in Marvel terms and one Celestial ignored the combined attack of three skyfathers (actual, galaxies-busting, multiverse-shaking skyfathers, not DC imitations who can be pwnd by Superman), including Odin. You're just a DC fanboy...you're the one with the bias. The Celestials also ARE pretty far up there on the totem pole, they're above the Watchers (who also > Odin), and depending on the depiction, Galactus. After abstracts they're probably about as tough as anything can get, with not many exceptions (I might've heard that Franklin Richards is above them. Something about creating and destroying a parallel universe, but I never read that X-Men and FF crud).

I don't know if he's a fanboy, he just doesn't know what he's talking about.

The Celestials get wanked more than Thanos tbh. They have barely any appearances and barely any feats but for some reason they are cosmic juggernauts and the most powerful magic users in Dc can't touch them? Bias is as bias does...

Originally posted by iceman24567
The Celestials get wanked more than Thanos tbh. They have barely any appearances and barely any feats but for some reason they are cosmic juggernauts and the most powerful magic users in Dc can't touch them? Bias is as bias does...

Originally posted by iceman24567
The Celestials get wanked more than Thanos tbh. They have barely any appearances and barely any feats but for some reason they are cosmic juggernauts and the most powerful magic users in Dc can't touch them? Bias is as bias does...

It's no bias. If we go by feats and appearances, the ones they have are the ones that are to be measured. It's been pretty thoroughly proven that skyfathers don't matter to Celestials. That's how powerful they are. That puts them pretty far beyond a bunch of third-string wankers or some big doofus like Gog. I mean, Gog spends his whole life hunting Superman...if the Celestials don't have to take Odin seriously, Superman would not even be bacteria. I don't even know why anyone would ever mention Gog in the same paragraph as even the weakest Celestial. This doesn't look like much of a fight.

Originally posted by Mindset
Are you talking to me?

Originally posted by UKR
It's no bias. If we go by feats and appearances, the ones they have are the ones that are to be measured. It's been pretty thoroughly proven that skyfathers don't matter to Celestials. That's how powerful they are. That puts them pretty far beyond a bunch of third-string wankers or some big doofus like Gog. I mean, Gog spends his whole life hunting Superman...if the Celestials don't have to take Odin seriously, Superman would not even be bacteria. I don't even know why anyone would ever mention Gog in the same paragraph as even the weakest Celestial. This doesn't look like much of a fight.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Nah it is biased because that's pretty much all we have seen from them the rest are off panel or just statements where as the characters in this thread have actual feats. Gog would wreck half of the known Marvel heroes out there a list or b list. Celestials spend their whole lives judging planets so?

There's no reason to think they don't. The showings they have are the ones that are measured. Did they, or did they not, simply ignore the combined assault of Odin, Zeus and that Hindu god (I can't remember which one it was, I think Vishnu)? There is no reason to think that those "off panel" showings and "statements" are worthless. Feel free to disprove them.

Let's do this one more time.

Eternity>>>>>Celestials

Eternity=Kismet

Nabu>Kismet

Amethyst>>Nabu=Mordru

Thus

Magic>>>Celestials.

Originally posted by UKR
There's no reason to think they don't. The showings they have are the ones that are measured. Did they, or did they not, simply ignore the combined assault of Odin, Zeus and that Hindu god (I can't remember which one it was, I think Vishnu)? There is no reason to think that those "off panel" showings and "statements" are worthless. Feel free to disprove them.

Originally posted by UKR
Did they, or did they not, simply ignore the combined assault of Odin, Zeus and that Hindu god (I can't remember which one it was, I think Vishnu)?

Yep it was vishnu. And that was arishem, not tiamut who it took the combined might of the enitre celestial host to put down or exitar who is more powerful than the rest of the celestials ( excluding tiamut of course) combined.

Originally posted by iceman24567
So these statements and off panel showings combined with the fact that they punked skyfathers = them being more powerful than the most powerful Dc magic users? Awesome i guess that isn't blind bias i concede 🙁

If you'd like to prove how these statements and off panel showings are invalid, no one will stop you. And I doubt even DC's best can ignore three skyfathers.

Originally posted by UKR
If you'd like to prove how these statements and off panel showings are invalid, no one will stop you. And I doubt even DC's best can ignore three skyfathers.