Mr.Mxy Vs Anti-Monitor

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I'm Bran Dead

Originally posted by Galan007
I don't think Spectre can be 'killed' in the true sense, but meh.

But yeah, I've never heard of a 'prime' Spectre that possesses more power than any of the others. 😕

No.

That's why I had the marks.

They say that Jordan Spectre (main universe) is the Prime Spectre:
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/3937/thespectrev41105kq3.jpg

*Insert issue 15 as well*

xJLxKing Senior Member

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
No, an amplified Spectre could not kill AM and was himself put in a coma-tose state, so no, I would not say Spectre is as powerful as AM.

Well in my defense I did say almost.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by I'm Bran
That's why I had the marks.

They say that Jordan Spectre (main universe) is the Prime Spectre:
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/3937/thespectrev41105kq3.jpg

*Insert issue 15 as well*

Cool, so there is only 1 'true' Spectre (dubbed Spectre-Prime.) However, the scan also says that each aspect of Spectre still possesses his full authority. So Mxy/Bat-Mite owning Spectre was equally as impressive each and every time they did it.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by Galan007
Cool, so there is only 1 'true' Spectre (dubbed Spectre-Prime.) However, the scan also says that each aspect of Spectre still possesses his full authority. So Mxy/Bat-Mite owning Spectre was equally as impressive each and every time they did it.
The Spectre in the Tangent Universe doesn't seem to.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Juntai
The Spectre in the Tangent Universe doesn't seem to.
The same one who was getting owned by Tangent Jade/Obsidian, and had to be saved by the Flashs'? 👇

And I thought that version was tech-powered anyway?

Batman-Prime Kryptonian Scientist

AM

I'm Bran Dead

Originally posted by Galan007
Cool, so there is only 1 'true' Spectre (dubbed Spectre-Prime.) However, the scan also says that each aspect of Spectre still possesses his full authority. So Mxy/Bat-Mite owning Spectre was equally as impressive each and every time they did it.
The same arc had Spectre absorbing a bunch of other Spectre's, and spitting them out (although it was because there was too much... like 100's of Spectres), and he was also able to fight off a bunch of them himself.

They were also called fragments in the same arc...

Etc.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Those Spectres' were acting independently from Spectre-Prime's own will - they went rogue. That's why he tried to absorb them in the first place, iirc. That said, I wouldn't call that instance a full proof way to gauge an aspect's 'true' power. Especially when the scan specifically says an aspect of Spectre (operating under Spectre-Prime's will, I'd assume) still possesses his full authority. *shrug*

I'm Bran Dead

Originally posted by Galan007
Those Spectres' were acting independently from Spectre-Prime's own will - they went rogue. That's why he tried to absorb them in the first place, iirc. That said, I wouldn't call that instance a full proof way to gauge an aspect's 'true' power. Especially when the scan specifically says an aspect of Spectre (operating under Spectre-Prime's will, I'd assume) still possesses his full authority. *shrug*
Authority = Power?

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by I'm Bran
Authority = Power?
In Spectre's case, his authority = Divine vengence.... So, yes.

starlock Team Authority

Mxy for the win

occultdestroyer The Original One

Mxy is NOT stronger than The Spectre.

Those times Mxy defeated Spectre is because Spectre has not merged with The Logoz.

Also, 5D imps are NOT exempt from The Presence's judgment.
Spectre can kill 5D imps if The Presence so wishes to.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Mxy is NOT stronger than The Spectre.
Mxy has owned Spectre several times, Joker with Mxy's power owned Spectre, Bat-Mite (just a part of Mxy's power) owned Spectre, Qwsp (a 5-D Imp roughly equal to Thunderbolt) owned Spectre.

I think it's safe to say that overall, 5-D power > Spectre.

occultdestroyer The Original One

Originally posted by Galan007
Mxy has owned Spectre several times, Joker with Mxy's power owned Spectre, Bat-Mite (just a part of Mxy's power) owned Spectre, Qwsp (a 5-D Imp roughly equal to Thunderbolt) owned Spectre.

I think it's safe to say that overall, 5-D power > Spectre.


What if The Spectre would've merged with The Logoz in those said fights?
Would the outcome still be the same?

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
What if The Spectre would've merged with The Logoz in those said fights?
Would the outcome still be the same?
What if? What if the Imps weren't even using an infinitesimal micro-fraction of their full power all the times they've owned Spectre? srsly

Based on what we've actually seen, 5-D power > Spectre (in general) - and that's not a low showing by any means, we're talking about beings who can retcon (among so much more) on a whim, here.

As Qwsp said; "I move freely through time AND Hypertime"... I can penetrate your reality at any level and control it."

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
What if The Spectre would've merged with The Logoz in those said fights?
Would the outcome still be the same?
The bottom line is Mxy can and has beaten the spectre. If you want to amp the spectre it seems like you are trying to get him the w.

occultdestroyer The Original One

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xJLxKing Senior Member

Well it also depends. Spectre when powered by the presence/word, he is almost unbeatable. However, AM did beat him. So at best I would say Mxy>=AM

Philosophía "The devil made me do it"

There are no alternate Universe versions of Spectre throughout creation since he is singular, so it might be possible (and likely) that the ones we see throughout creation are aspects. Now whether they are all equal in power, not at all, imo.

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by Philosophía

There are no alternate Universe versions of Spectre throughout creation since he is singular, so it might be possible (and likely) that the ones we see throughout creation are aspects. Now whether they are all equal in power, not at all, imo.


This seems logical. 👆

It's sorta like Eternity I suppose,
E's aspects are but fractions (singular universes) of his totality,
while E's prime manifestation (616 m-body) holds his full power.