Hank Pym Vs The Atom (Ray Palmer)

Started by Warlord2 pages
Originally posted by MrMind
in a prep fight I give it to pym
in a straight up fight atom shrink to sub atomic level, get into pym's brain then expand

that's about right

Originally posted by MrMind
in a prep fight I give it to pym
in a straight up fight atom shrink to sub atomic level, get into pym's brain then expand

Pym wins either scenario.

Pym shrinks down to the microverse and mocks Palmer's skills.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Pym wins either scenario.

Pym shrinks down to the microverse and mocks Palmer's skills.

Palmer has better shrining powers though. And is just as smart, IMO.

the microverse is new.
haven't read it.
before that I agree Palmer is better at shrinking.
I have seen nothing from him matching what Pym did in Mighty Avengers, tech/intelligence wise though

The narration said "microverse", but they didn't actually cross the barrier into it -- it was just a generic background of molecular structures, which is NOT what the Microverse is.

And it's not nearly as small as Ray can shrink -- he's slipped through the cracks of reality, literally traveling through the multiverse as a result (then later built a device that could do the same).

Current 'Sorcerer Supreme' (a prior empty title that he is giving a lot of meaning) Pym has at least equal shrinking abilities.

And can hold an equal conversation with Eternity. If Reed conversing equally with Galactus is some sort of benchmark, then Hank is most certainly 'the man'. 😛

Originally posted by CosmicComet
[B]Current 'Sorcerer Supreme' (a prior empty title that he is giving a lot of meaning) Pym has at least equal shrinking abilities.

"Scientist Supreme", a title that only existed in an alternate reality where there wasn't sorcery.

Originally posted by Desaad
The narration said "microverse", but they didn't actually cross the barrier into it -- it was just a generic background of molecular structures, which is NOT what the Microverse is.

And it's not nearly as small as Ray can shrink -- he's slipped through the cracks of reality, literally traveling through the multiverse as a result (then later built a device that could do the same).

if the narration said "microverse" how exactly are you suggesting it was not the microverse? and how you say slipping through parallel universes means shrinking even smaller?

Originally posted by Warlord
if the narration said "microverse" how exactly are you suggesting it was not the microverse?

Because that's not the environment of the microverse. Microverse could just mean, in that instance, the space between mlcs. Read the issue and find out for yourself.

and how you say slipping through parallel universes means shrinking even smaller?

Because shrinking through the fabric of reality goes beyond shrinking into the space between atoms. Even if you're at the size level that electrons are suns, you're still in our physical universe.

here you go guys analyze away...

Originally posted by guy222

Yeah, Palmer is a step above Pym in the shrinking department.

Can he grow in size?

It is indisputable that he WAS.

Now they seem to be ABOUT on par, with Palmer's highest highs still pretty much untouchable. He's also got the added benefit of the density control, but Pym can now grow past the point of logic -- that scene, for instance, is nonsensical as if it was really just a matter of size (something I think is absolute drek by the way) then he would have destroyed everything on earth growing to that size.

Originally posted by Mindset
Can he grow in size?

There was a time he could, briefly, but never to the level that Pym now can, nope. Not even close.

Originally posted by King Castle
here you go guys analyze away...
holy shit!

what comic is that from?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
holy shit!

what comic is that from?


avengers academy 7

crap, i wanted to avoid that series

i hate kid/female versions of already existing characters

Originally posted by psycho gundam
crap, i wanted to avoid that series

i hate kid/female versions of already existing characters


I only read the issue with norman osborn in it. that was not bad.
the rating of this series is actually pretty high

won't hurt to check it out