Tragedy at Belgian day care center

Originally posted by Bardock42
It's dragging, really. The last 3 mangas were slow...really slow. Up to that everything was excellent. Love Isidrops and Puck.

Also, how come Sym knows more about lightsabre forms than you?

I agree that they were slow. Every since we got the super apostle, its just been slow.

Sym may or may not. It should be obvious that my post was just random forms for the sake of being off topic. A search of the forums will show that I found this site accidentally when researching form VII. As if I would unknowingly make a mistake on which forms are which.

Also, it's lightsaber. Not lightsabre. The weapon was named by George Lucas. He is an American. Out of respect, you should spell it the way the creator spelled it. Really, any other spelling would technically be wrong since that's the way he named it, now wouldn't it?

The allusion to a gun ban is totally misleading- Guns still make these kind of slaughters much easier, and he would have killed far mroe witha gun.

As for lightsabres- original spelliing in the first edition 1976 novel release was 'sabre'. Furthermore this is closer to the historical use of the term as a serious weapon as opposed to a fencing (sporting) weapon, which is how the modern split US/UK spelling is applied. Back in the day, everyone was using the French spelling.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I agree that they were slow. Every since we got the super apostle, its just been slow.

Sym may or may not. It should be obvious that my post was just random forms for the sake of being off topic. A search of the forums will show that I found this site accidentally when researching form VII. As if I would unknowingly make a mistake on which forms are which.

Also, it's lightsaber. Not lightsabre. The weapon was named by George Lucas. He is an American. Out of respect, you should spell it the way the creator spelled it. Really, any other spelling would technically be wrong since that's the way he named it, now wouldn't it?

And it still should be sabre. I know it isn't, in current applications, like EU Comics, etc.. But it should be.

The guy apparently wore Joker make up, while doing it, kinda weird. First Heath Ledger, now this.....how many more lost lives will Bob Kane have to endure on his conscience?

Originally posted by Ushgarak
As for lightsabres- original spelliing in the first edition 1976 novel release was 'sabre'. Furthermore this is closer to the historical use of the term as a serious weapon as opposed to a fencing (sporting) weapon, which is how the modern split US/UK spelling is applied. Back in the day, everyone was using the French spelling.

If it was changed from the first edition, that makes my point even more valid. If it was intentionally change, then everyone should be calling and spelling it by lightsaber. It is a fantasy noun invented by George Lucas. This is his creation.

It was only changed by clueless editors for the US version only. There's absolutely no way it makes your point even slightly valid. The original, 1st edition canon called it sabre and Alan Dean Foster was working off GL's notes.

Hence there is just as good a case to say the fantasy noun he created was sabre. Hence you have no grounds at all to make some sort of superior case for that spelling.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
It was only changed by clueless editors for the US version only.

Baseless and obviously incorrect assumption. Don't you think Georgie would have corrected it already if it was REALLY what he intended? Obviously not. And if you want to go the route of, "It is too menial to be of significance", think again. It is one of the most iconic props of the entire universe.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
There's absolutely no way it makes your point even slightly valid.

You are completely wrong. It is the exact opposite. All evidence points in my favor and all of it points in your disfavor.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
The original, 1st edition canon called it sabre and Alan Dean Foster was working off GL's notes.

That's great and all, but now it's changed. The correct spelling is lightsaber. If you choose to spell it lightsabre, that is your error and would be a form of willful disrespect.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Hence there is just as good a case to say the fantasy noun he created was sabre. Hence you have no grounds at all to make some sort of superior case for that spelling.

No, there is not. It was change and changed for a reason. Also, do you have proof that it was lightsabre in the first edition? I've never seen a first edition. Seriously.

No, everything points to myself being correct. Not one thing you've presented helps your case, it only helps mine. If all the books, comics, movies, subtitles, etc. have it spelled lightsaber, how in the world can any thing you say even be logical to you?

No, I don't think he would have corrected it; no, I do not think he woukld have thought it remotely important enough; I think you are deliberately ignoring the point that if GL had in some way demanded it changed then itn would have been for ALL editions, not just later editions in the US alione. Your assumption that they magically changed it because they thought it was a greivous error is at least as big an assumption as the rather straightforward "they only changed it in one specific edition to suit that country's particular spelling attitude' which is of no relevance at all. You simply have no grounds to assume yur view is superior and to try and dissmiss my very relevant points with comments like 'that's good and all' shows a want of intellect.

It was not changed officaly, it was changed in error, arbitrarily, for no offical reason in one region alone. For you to take that as some great evidence that it was intentionally changed purely to suit your view on the matter and therefore to use it is 'wilfull disrespect' is... breathtaking, and frankly borderline trolling

It also does not matter a damn what the EU comics etc. write about it. Not one tiny bit. The amount they have wrong is legendary.

You want to twist this clueessly to suit your POV- fine. You are utterly wrong and exceedingly arrogant in doing so, but that'sjust how it is. But then using that arrogance to attack others for disrespect... that is the kind of logic I find horrifying.

Like I say- the facts are these. The original material called it sabres. Editiors in one region changed it in error. For you to try and state for certain that it is therefore offically 'saber', despite that not being so at all, is contemptible. For you to dismiss the point that it seems highly likely that the spellign was always meant to be 'saber' is being willfully blind. For you to use all of this deliberate ignorance to attack others is pathetic.

Do not use it to attack others in that way again. If you want to debate the spelling further, do it in the Star Wars section. But do not use it as a weapon to make attacks on anyone in any place in these forums at all. Hope that is clear and logical enough for you.

That being the case, return to topic here.

Request move to the Star Wars forum.

My point has been made- this talk of 'willful disrespect' ceases.

Damn. That is ****ed up.

edit-I PM'd Ush instead of keeping here. I looks like Ush doesn't want it here anymore.

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It is a bit off-topic.

But you know what isn't?

THE DARK KNIGHT!!! Lets discuss that instead....yayyy

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
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On the other hand, if I use bold like this.

"When it comes to absolute canon, the real story of Star Wars, you must turn to the films themselves - and only the films. Even novelizations are interpretations of the film, and while they are largely true to George Lucas' vision (he works quite closely with the novel authors), the method in which they are written does allow for some minor differences."

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AGAIN THOUGH, THE GUY WAS DRESSED AS JOKER!!! WHY IS NO ONE DISCUSSING THIS???

Originally posted by Bardock42
AGAIN THOUGH, THE GUY WAS DRESSED AS JOKER!!! WHY IS NO ONE DISCUSSING THIS???

This is why comic books are the source of all the world's ills.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
This is why comic books are the source of all the world's ills.

KIDS ARE READING THIS STUFF.

And apparently also mentally unstable 20 somethings.

Originally posted by Bardock42
On the other hand, if I use bold like this.

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AGAIN THOUGH, THE GUY WAS DRESSED AS JOKER!!! WHY IS NO ONE DISCUSSING THIS???

He was probably dressed as a generic clown and its the media that hypes it up and draws a reference from a well-known character. What about the character from the movie "It" ? I mean, if the guy admits it as an influence to what he did then thats something to with his state of mind rather than the actions of the character.

It is true the man did have his face Whitened and his eyes had black paint on them, that is why foreign press is calling him 'The Joker'

the killer still refuses to cooperate with the police and reveal his motives. he has also refused to eat and they have to feed him trough IV.... this is one messed up individual