Originally posted by xJLxKingyeah but its Presence who restored everything as it was before no? 🤨
No, he destroyed everything. At the same time he recreated everything to his image. I think he made Superman into a dog, or a cat.
btw didnt Darkseid survive the destruction? there was some survivors and besides mxy didn't destroy "everything" like the entire DC multiverse (including 7D realm, 10D realm & all that) so some parts were spared (everything above 5D acutally)
Originally posted by SoulDevourerDuring 'WF' not only did Mxy destroy the whole of DC creation, but he recreated it all with a snap (even making plans with Bat-Mite to do the same thing "next Tuesday" lol.)
recreating? isn't it the Presence who fixed everything?
Same coin, Emperor Joker destroyed the universe (along all of it's strata,) and snapped it back into existence.
Destroying/creating realities is well within Mxy's power.
Originally posted by SoulDevourerIt's never been stated that Mxy's powers are limited to the 5th-D (in fact, he's gone into higher dimensions just for fun.) Like I've said before in other threads, numerically higher dimensions don't necessarily equate to more powerful characters. I mean, we've seen 6-D beings, and while they were fairly powerful, they never displayed anything close to the power output of a 5-D Imp. Hell, even beings from the 52nd dimension didn't seem like they were anything greater than an average 3rd dimensional being.
anyway mxy is limited by 5D. for all we know theres no upper dimension limit for god, satan or god-spawn (or maybe their limited & maybe even their limited to only 3D or 4D but it was never stated so we have to suppose they aint 😛)
Originally posted by Galan007ah but it HAS been stated mxy's power is ONLY due to fact he's from 5D !
It's never been stated that Mxy's powers are limited to the 5th-D (in fact, he's gone into higher dimensions just for fun.) Like I've said before in other threads, numerically higher dimensions don't necessarily equate to more powerful characters. I mean, we've seen 6-D beings, and while they were fairly powerful, they never displayed anything close to the power output of a 5-D Imp. Hell, even beings from the 52nd dimension didn't seem like they were anything greater than an average 3rd dimensional being.
he has stated that he so powerful because hes "2 levels of infinity" above the normal (3D) verse
just because we dont see someone doing some uber mojo doesnt mean they aint powerful
just like marvels TOAA we never see him do anything yet we know hes "above all" even above LT
btw remember when mxy told supe "you dont wanna see a 7D imp!", this imply that 7D > 5D, and so on...
higher dimension => higher power
about mxy visiting higher dimensions : big deal, supe (3D) has also visited the 5D dimension, that dont mean hes same level as mxy, does it? 😛
Originally posted by SoulDevourerfacepalm
ah but it HAS been stated mxy's power is ONLY due to fact he's from 5D !he has stated that he so powerful because hes "2 levels of infinity" above the normal (3D) verse
just because we dont see someone doing some uber mojo doesnt mean they aint powerful
just like marvels TOAA we never see him do anything yet we know hes "above all" even above LTbtw remember when mxy told supe "you dont wanna see a 7D imp!", this imply that 7D > 5D, and so on...
higher dimension => higher power
Originally posted by Galan007
Does it? Hmm.I just remember it saying something along the lines of - "between them they have the power to create a world teaming with life." (issue #163, iirc.)
But even if God/Satan did create a universe, that's still nowhere near on par with Mxy. Nor is anything 'God-Spawn' did.
Oh, no. God and Satan were given their universe by MoM. God Spawn, though, created his own universe, which housed that separate Earth. That is what's stated. MoM (Mother) even tells Spawn that because he created this universe, the laws of physics are his to command...that's when he seals off Heaven and Hell from the mortal plane.
Originally posted by EnyalusHmm, I guess I'll have to reread that when I get home. But as I said before, even if that is the case, Mxy's still >.
Oh, no. God and Satan were given their universe by MoM. God Spawn, though, created his own universe, which housed that separate Earth. That is what's stated. MoM (Mother) even tells Spawn that because he created this universe, the laws of physics are his to command...that's when he seals off Heaven and Hell from the mortal plane.
Originally posted by Enyalus-Spawn-
God Spawn, though, created his own universe, which housed that separate Earth. That is what's stated. MoM (Mother) even tells Spawn that because he created this universe, the laws of physics are his to command...that's when he seals off Heaven and Hell from the mortal plane.
-MoM-
"They still exist, but you are this world's creator. You make the rules now... If you want to close the portals that link Heaven/Hell to earth, you only have to say the words."
-Spawn-
"THEN I CLOSE THEM! From now on, no Demon/Angel will ever interfere with a single human life":
All that was talked about there was one world, not a universe. So.... *shrug*
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On a sidenote, here's that scan I was talking about, regarding God/Satan's final battle..
"Between them they had the power to create a world teeming with life and beauty":
Originally posted by Enyalus
It says several times that God-Spawn created an entirely new universe. Not just a new Earth.And taking on all of Heaven and Hells armies at once, and winning easily?
...Decently impressive to me.
When did it say, that God Spawn created a new Universe?
What issue, because I have every Spawn comic published and it never said that, if I recall.
Tell me the issue and I'll check it out.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
When did it say, that God Spawn created a new Universe?What issue, because I have every Spawn comic published and it never said that, if I recall.
Tell me the issue and I'll check it out.
I'll do one better - I'll post the pages I'm talking about when I get home. It'll be a few hours.
And Galan, I agree that Mxy is > God-Spawn. I was just posting reasons for why he loses at #6.
Originally posted by EnyalusMoore's run was excellent. And ST made his transition into 'Swamp-God' during the final issues of v2 (which was during Millar's run.) And yes, v2 was extremely good as well.
That was during Morrison, and then Millar's run, right? Volume 2?(You told me Moore some time ago. 😛)
