Superman, hulk vs Gladiator, doomsday.

Started by carver97 pages

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Gladiator > Superman

Gladiator's powers fluctuates a great deal with every showing but at his strongest he can collapse stars with his bare hands, contain Super Nova's etc.

That in my opinion is beyond current Superman. The strength necessary to collapse stars should and would turn Superman into a pulp as even current Superman, has been harmed by much less strength.

I have not seen anything in post-crisis Superman to match that strength.

He has moved the gears of Mageddon, pushed War World etc. All very impressive, but still doesn't even begin to come close to the strength Gladiator is supposed to have at Full confidence.

Hunter Prey Doomsday > Hulk

Hunter Prey is superior to Savage Hulk. Anyone who read the arc would know this.

This statement is sooooo true and I forgot about him containing a solar system destroying blast that he took in the face without suffering any damage.

Originally posted by Raoul
it's a viable tactic, isn't it? 😛

i read it straight from the comic as i was typing... unless you mean a different panel...

You could be right, I'll look at it when I get home. I thought i had it memorized due to how many times I read that arc. 😉

Originally posted by Raoul
it's a viable tactic, isn't it? 😛
No. get out.

Originally posted by carver9
This statement is sooooo true and I forgot about him containing a solar system destroying blast that he took in the face without suffering any damage.

Superman held a black hole together in his hand. That take more.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Superman held a black hole together in his hand. That take more.

That was a test of durability then anything else. Gladiator actually CONTAINED a solar system destroying blast and then he took the blast to the face without even feeling it. Is superman punches harder then a solar system destroying blast that gladiator wasnt even fazed by. Do you honestly think that superman can output more power then that to put gladiator down.

Originally posted by carver9
That was a test of durability then anything else. Gladiator actually CONTAINED a solar system destroying blast and then he took the blast to the face without even feeling it. Is superman punches harder then a solar system destroying blast that gladiator wasnt even fazed by. Do you honestly think that superman can output more power then that to put gladiator down.

They are BOTH durability feats. In my opinion, Superman was better. Even a small black hole would have enough power to make the sun into a tiny tiny tiny atom. FYI Superman took a explosion of the sun eater which was red sun light radiation. The explosion was also as big. Please go check out the Superman respect thread.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
They are BOTH durability feats. In my opinion, Superman was better.
actually, they're both stupid feats made by the writers, superman's is just more asinine.

i don't want to even get into how retarded it was.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
They are BOTH durability feats. In my opinion, Superman was better. Even a small black hole would have enough power to make the sun into a tiny tiny tiny atom. FYI Superman took a explosion of the sun eater which was red sun light radiation. The explosion was also as big. Please go check out the Superman respect thread.

Why do I need to check the respect thread when I seen the comic and wasnt superman knocked out during this encounter and also, it wasnt directly on him when it happened, he was some distance away. Nice feat but not even remotely close to what gladiator has done.

Thats not the only feat that make me think that gladiator is more powerful then superman. Gladiator being able to move planets and bust planets open makes me think that he is above superman SINCE superboy prime is about the only being in Dc that has accomplished that feat in recent years. There has been hardly no proof of planet busters in dc just using physical strength except again, superboy prime. Collapsing stars also make me think that he's above superman and flying 100 times the speed of light which was QUOTED for gladiator. By the way, when has gladiator ever been koed by physical might without some outside plot device. The only times I have seen him knocked out took tp, and radiation.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
actually, they're both stupid feats made by the writers, superman's is just more asinine.

i don't want to even get into how retarded it was.


I am not saying it was good writing. Whenever you have to much power, power ups, and feats it becomes bad writing. No matter who the character is. Just look what happened in DBZ. They started it off nice, and then it went straight to hell. People just getting upgrades and power ups each match that it became stupid writing.

i'm glad you think like that, some stuff is just too stupid to take seriously.

- hulk thunder clapping an entire dimension to shit.

- superman holding a blackhole and not being pulled into it even though he is making some sort of contact with it.

- etc

Originally posted by carver9
Why do I need to check the respect thread when I seen the comic and wasnt superman knocked out during this encounter and also, it wasnt directly on him when it happened, he was some distance away. Nice feat but not even remotely close to what gladiator has done.

Thats not the only feat that make me think that gladiator is more powerful then superman. Gladiator being able to move planets and bust planets open makes me think that he is above superman SINCE superboy prime is about the only being in Dc that has accomplished that feat in recent years. There has been hardly no proof of planet busters in dc just using physical strength except again, superboy prime. Collapsing stars also make me think that he's above superman and flying 100 times the speed of light which was QUOTED for gladiator. By the way, when has gladiator ever been koed by physical might without some outside plot device. The only times I have seen him knocked out took tp, and radiation.


If your are going to compare Glad to SMP then please stop. Superman Prime is on a different level. He survived an explosion that destroyed the universe. He was only knocked out. He even destroyed other Superman with his heat vision.

Any ways I am pretty sure the feat is better then Glads. It was a Supernova when the suneater exploded. That suneater ate a lot of Giant Dwarfs. That was thrown on to stuperman and he didn't die. It's not like it was a regular Super Nova. It was Superman Nova that that a red sunlight. It was hitting Superman!

@psycho gundam.
How about beyonder thinking too hard made planets explode 😄

Originally posted by xJLxKing
If your are going to compare Glad to SMP then please stop. Superman Prime is on a different level. He survived an explosion that destroyed the universe. He was only knocked out. He even destroyed other Superman with his heat vision.

Any ways I am pretty sure the feat is better then Glads. It was a Supernova when the suneater exploded. That suneater ate a lot of Giant Dwarfs. That was thrown on to stuperman and he didn't die. It's not like it was a regular Super Nova. It was Superman Nova that that a red sunlight. It was hitting Superman!

@psycho gundam.
How about beyonder thinking too hard made planets explode 😄

I'm not comparing him to superboy prime, I simply said that he's the only person in dc with the feats.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm not comparing him to superboy prime, I simply said that he's the only person in dc with the feats.

Oh, well I think Dc is making their character weaker; some actually.

Didnt superman absorb the energy of the sun eater?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
@psycho gundam.
How about beyonder thinking too hard made planets explode 😄
pre-retcon beyonder is a little different don't you think? that's kind of a low feat for him.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Didnt superman absorb the energy of the sun eater?

Thats what I thought but I havent read it in so long and I only read it once that I was unsure.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Superman held a black hole together in his hand. That take more.

Don't even use that as a feat. We know what effects a "true" black hole would have, even a miniature one.

The writer obviously didn't pass science class, as he would now what would happen to the planet if a real....never mind...

Gladiator's feat is pretty bad as well, but at least it's been explained that his power set is in part psionic. That good justify that feat in some way.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Don't even use that as a feat. We know what effects a "true" black hole would have, even a miniature one.

The writer obviously didn't pass science class, as he would now what would happen to the planet if a real....never mind...


Yes, I know but it's a feat nevertheless. Yes, I hate it too. Just because it doesn't have a logic feat doesn't mean that it didn't happen. Otherwise you will have to explain to me how w guardian of an empire has a Afro.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
If your are going to compare Glad to SMP then please stop. Superman Prime is on a different level. He survived an explosion that destroyed the universe. He was only knocked out. He even destroyed other Superman with his heat vision.

Any ways I am pretty sure the feat is better then Glads. It was a Supernova when the suneater exploded. That suneater ate a lot of Giant Dwarfs. That was thrown on to stuperman and he didn't die. It's not like it was a regular Super Nova. It was Superman Nova that that a red sunlight. It was hitting Superman!

@psycho gundam.
How about beyonder thinking too hard made planets explode 😄

What feat are you talking about?

You mean, the time he took Jonathan Kent into space?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What feat are you talking about?

You mean, the time he took Jonathan Kent into space?


I'll try and get the image.