WW Hulk vs General Zod

Originally posted by Draco69
WWH BFRed Juggernaut by driving his momentum into the nearest bog.

By time, Juggernaut got out of the lake, WWH had skeddaled.

Superman could do the exact same thing to Juggernaut.

Only he could throw Juggernaut into the nearest sun.....

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Originally posted by Draco69
WWH won't hit Zod with his vastly superior speed and reactions. Zod was able to attack and counter against Superman at near-lightspeeds when they battled in space.

WWH is incredibly strong and durable. Whether or not, he is stronger or more durable than WWH is mute since it's comparable. Zod pushes it over the edge with vastly superior speed and multitude of other abilities that WWH has no counter for.

Originally posted by Draco69
Agreed on many points. Zod could have done the exact same thing in the World War Hulk storyline.

The X-Men? The FF4? They would have all fallen like pins.

The only one Zod couldnt' defeat was Strange. And neither could WWH since he got very, very lucky. And apparently broken hands is the only thing Zum/Strange cannot counter....

Originally posted by Mindset
Sorry, I meant to say wasn't.

They probably just wanted Strange to fight hth with WHH, the next time his hands were shown weren't they alright?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
There is no BFR in this thread. So throwing Juggs into the sun is meaningless. WWH stalemated classic Juggs. If you really think Superman or Zod could beat classic Juggs, that's your weed you're smoking.

I was referring to your erroneous statement which stated that WWH 'stalemated' Juggernaut when he really just BFRed the Juggernaut. Which Superman could easily do the same.

In physical combat, Superman nor Zod can't defeat Juggernaut. But neither can WWH....

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Near light-speeds? That's quite a leap to make. Show me the panels where they are shown to be fighting at near-light speeds.

They battled each other in Vegas Galaxy. You can look it up in the Superman Respect Thread. The endgame of their battle finally took them to orbit of Jupiter. The timeline of their battle was apparently only a few moments at best, so 'near-lightspeeds' may actually be an understatement....

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
WWH shrugged a multitude of attacks than Zod could ever muster: phasing, energy attacks, magic, telepathy, heat, genetic poisons, kinetic inversion, Skrull Bolt's voice, Sentry's calming aura, etc.

None of these were impressive.

Who were these attacks generated by?

A bunch of second-stringers and mutant children.

Skrull-Bolt, Sentry, and Strange were the most potent attacks.

Skrull-Bolt's power-levels were undetermined but clearly not as powerful as the original.

Strange jobbed. End of story with that one.

Sentry's 'million exploding suns' wasn't impressive either.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Zod can and has been knocked out before. If anybody has the strength to do that.

Does WWH have the strength to knock out Zod? Yes, possibly.

But the real question is: Can he hit Zod? Will he be able effectively track and connect a punch with a thinking, reacting object moving at incredible speeds?

According to the KMC rules (which you and your SuperHeroChat ilk all continuely ignore...) Zod will speedblitz.

Which WWH hasn't shown any sort of defense against.

WWH CAN be hurt as shown multiple times in the storyline. However he simply can't counter Zod's superspeed.

He'll be hit again and again at thousand times per second and WWH can only thrash about like a two-year old throwing a tantrum.

KMC Rules: Zod speedblitzes. WWH gets owned.

If you don't like it, pack your bags and ship your ass back to SHC.

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Originally posted by OneDumbG0
WWH shrugged a multitude of attacks than Zod could ever muster: phasing, energy attacks, magic, telepathy, heat, genetic poisons, kinetic inversion, Skrull Bolt's voice, Sentry's calming aura, etc. Zod can and has been knocked out before. If anybody has the strength to do that.
Xavier probably would have had him on the ground with telepathy, Skrull-Bolt's voice probably would have caused Zod's eardrums and head to explode, Juggs would have stomped on him w/o BFR, Kitty's phase... not sure what that would do to a Superman-level being, Zarathos would have incinerated him with Hellfire, Darwin would have beat Zod, etc.

Originally posted by Draco69
I was referring to your erroneous statement which stated that WWH 'stalemated' Juggernaut when he really just BFRed the Juggernaut. Which Superman could easily do the same.

In physical combat, Superman nor Zod can't defeat Juggernaut. But neither can WWH....

Originally posted by Draco69
They battled each other in Vegas Galaxy. You can look it up in the Superman Respect Thread. The endgame of their battle finally took them to orbit of Jupiter. The timeline of their battle was apparently only a few moments at best, so 'near-lightspeeds' may actually be an understatement....

So... those aliens watching them and talking and observing Zod getting the upper-hand... guess they must have super-speed, huh? Sounds like more of the same super-speed cheering that Superman apologists like to use.

Originally posted by Draco69
None of these were impressive.

Who were these attacks generated by?

A bunch of second-stringers and mutant children.

Skrull-Bolt, Sentry, and Strange were the most potent attacks.

Skrull-Bolt's power-levels were undetermined but clearly not as powerful as the original.

Strange jobbed. End of story with that one.

Sentry's 'million exploding suns' wasn't impressive either.

Originally posted by Draco69
Does WWH have the strength to knock out Zod? Yes, possibly.

But the real question is: Can he hit Zod? Will he be able effectively track and connect a punch with a thinking, reacting object moving at incredible speeds?

According to the KMC rules (which you and your SuperHeroChat ilk all continuely ignore...) Zod will speedblitz.

Which WWH hasn't shown any sort of defense against.

WWH CAN be hurt as shown multiple times in the storyline. However he simply can't counter Zod's superspeed.

He'll be hit again and again at thousand times per second and WWH can only thrash about like a two-year old throwing a tantrum.

KMC Rules: Zod speedblitzes. WWH gets owned.

If you don't like it, pack your bags and ship your ass back to SHC.

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I've never posted on SHC. You need to learn that evidence backs up arguments. Not assumptions.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
WWH stalemated Juggernaut before he decided to BFR him. WWH's healing factor and excess gamma radiation powering him, which was for all intents and purpose so limitless, that even Darwin couldn't absorb it.

And he still couldn't ultimately beat Classic Juggernaut no matter how strong he was.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
These scans? Let me ask you something. If they were fighting at near-lightspeeds, than anybody watching them would only perceive blurs, correct? Unless they had superspeed as well...

So... those aliens watching them and talking and observing Zod getting the upper-hand... guess they must have super-speed, huh? Sounds like more of the same super-speed cheering that Superman apologists like to use.

Um. No. That's the wrong fight. It took place in space like I said somewhere in the vicinity of the Vega Galaxy.

It was during the timeline where he was wearing the horrible Darth Vader-ripoff costume...

Thanks for getting the scans, though.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Impressive? Xavier-level telepathy? Human Torch Nova-Blast? Molecularly phasing a foe into the landscape? And despite your wild assertions that Skrull-Bolt that he clearly must not have been as powerful as Black Bolt, Skrull-Bolt's scream of electron particles blew a piece of the moon off the size of Rhode Island. Not impressive? Yea. Sure.

Nothing Zod nor Superman couldn't survive much less endure.

The only iffy thing is Kitty's phasing and Strange's magic.

Anything else is well within their ability.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I've never posted on SHC. You need to learn that evidence backs up arguments.

1) Um, yes you have posted on SHC. You've boldly stated you were in fact an immigrant from SHC.

2) I don't have to show Zod peedblitzing when he's shown to battle Superman in superspeed combat.

What YOU have to show is simple:

How will WWH be able to counter a foe with vastly superior speed? A foe that can hit him a thousand times before he blinks?

That's the simple question you have to answer.

If WWH can effectively counter Zod's superspeed, than yes he definitely has the potential to win.

But he doesn't. According to KMC rules, Zod will speedblitz. Like any other foe with superspeed.

If you wanna keep ignoring this rule to make WWH win in your mind, go ahead sweetie.

Also, asking for proof that Superman can throw a thousand punches a second? 🤨 Are YOU dense?

for zod to win, he has to ko wwh, that doesn't seem likely even if he gets a speedblitz. hulk is built for that kind of punishment.

i know hulk will get blitzed, but i also know he can take it.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Also, asking for proof that Superman can throw a thousand punches a second? 🤨 Are YOU dense?

Originally posted by Draco69
And he still couldn't ultimately beat Classic Juggernaut no matter how strong he was.

Originally posted by Draco69
Um. No. That's the wrong fight. It took place in space like I said somewhere in the vicinity of the Vega Galaxy.

It was during the timeline where he was wearing the horrible Darth Vader-ripoff costume...

Thanks for getting the scans, though.

Originally posted by Draco69
Nothing Zod nor Superman couldn't survive much less endure.

The only iffy thing is Kitty's phasing and Strange's magic.

Anything else is well within their ability.

Originally posted by Draco69
1) Um, yes you have posted on SHC. You've boldly stated you were in fact an immigrant from SHC.

Originally posted by Draco69
2) I don't have to show Zod peedblitzing when he's shown to battle Superman in superspeed combat.

Originally posted by Draco69
What YOU have to show is simple:

How will WWH be able to counter a foe with vastly superior speed? A foe that can hit him a thousand times before he blinks?

That's the simple question you have to answer.

If WWH can effectively counter Zod's superspeed, than yes he definitely has the potential to win.

But he doesn't. According to KMC rules, Zod will speedblitz. Like any other foe with superspeed.

If you wanna keep ignoring this rule to make WWH win in your mind, go ahead sweetie.

How will Zod be able to overcome a foe with unlimited strength and a near-instantaneous healing factor?

That's the simple question you have to answer.

If Zod can effectively counter WWH's unlimited strength and near-instantaneous healing factor, then yes he definitely has the potential to win.

But he doesn't. According to KMC rules, we use evidence. Like any other poster with a common sense.

If you wanna keep ignoring this rule to make Zod win in your mind, go ahead sweetie.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
for zod to win, he has to ko wwh, that doesn't seem likely even if he gets a speedblitz. hulk is built for that kind of punishment.

i know hulk will get blitzed, but i also know he can take it.

But can he effectively give it back?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
So since WWH stalemated and matched classic Juggernaut to the point he halted his advance, and Superman and Zod can't beat classic Juggernaut without BFR, then how does Zod beat WWH?

Lord, in heaven.

Superman or Zod could replicated the same exact feat as WWH.

However neither WWH, nor Zod can defeat Classic Juggernaut solely using physical force.

Your comparision is flawed.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Thanks for not getting the scans and just posting sweeping generalizations without evidence since you know I could probably rip apart whatever scans you do provide by analyzing context. Pretty presumptuous conceit I'm spouting, right? I'm just saying it because I just want to see the scans you're speaking of.

As a tired and rather weary veteran KMC member, I really don't feel like like sorting through scans. I've done my time. 🙂

So if you want to see Zod's superspeed that apparently you don't think he has, I suggest you look it up.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Blowing off a piece of the Moon the size of Rhode Island would probably knock Superman and Zod unconscious.

Superman has survived planetary explosions.

One of his highest durability feats was surviving the explosion of a nebula which contains thousands of galaxies.

So, Rhode Island? Not so much.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I think you have me confused with someone else.[ /B]

No, not really.

I remember SHC immigrants since they're rather irritating.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
[B]Show me where he's engaging in super-speed combat with Superman. You haven't even proved him capable of this. At all. In fact, I posted a fight where it's pretty conclusive they're not punching and parrying at super-speeds.[ /B]

It's rather simple. Zod has superspeed. In bloodlust, Zod will use superspeed. Unless, CIS states he won't.

Show me where WWH can effectively counter superspeed on Zod's or Superman's level.

If you can, I'd be happy to debate with you.

However this "LALALA Zod doesn't have superspeed!" is rather tiring, dear.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
[B]What YOU have to show is simple:

How will Zod be able to overcome a foe with unlimited strength and a near-instantaneous healing factor?

That's the simple question you have to answer.

If Zod can effectively counter WWH's unlimited strength and near-instantaneous healing factor, then yes he definitely has the potential to win.

But he doesn't. According to KMC rules, we use evidence. Like any other poster with a common sense.

If you wanna keep ignoring this rule to make Zod win in your mind, go ahead sweetie.

Lord, I hate parrotfashioning. It shows lack of original thought.

WWH's strength and healing is impressive but rather useless against speed.

The amount of strength he has is irrelevant when he can't hit his target.

The ability to heal wounds is rather irrelevant when your foe can rip off your arm before you've had a chance to regrow it.

You're continuing to skip around the issue of Zod's superspeed and WWH's inability to counter it.

Your response will be predictable as follows:

A) "Show me a scan of Zod's speed....yes, I know he's a Kryptonian who's on Superman's level but I wanna see it anyway!"

B) "How will WWH be able to counter Zod's speed?....I'll have to get back to ya on that Miss. Katie Couric!"

Originally posted by I'm Bran
If the question was so dumb, then there would have been proof to show so... no?

Have you seen the Superman Respect Thread?

The original one that is.

It's impossible to navigate.

I'm not sweating over something that infantile, dear.

I've grown far too old (in forum years) for that.

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Originally posted by Draco69
Have you seen the Superman Respect Thread?

The original one that is.

It's impossible to navigate.

I'm not sweating over something that infantile, dear.

I've grown far too old (in forum years) for that.

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Originally posted by I'm Bran
Was replying to Trick.

Ah.

My eyesight (in forum years) is going too.

Where's my bloody cane...?

everyone knows

Supes>Zod>WWH>Juggs

Originally posted by Draco69
Lord, in heaven.

Superman or Zod could replicated the same exact feat as WWH.

However neither WWH, nor Zod can defeat Classic Juggernaut solely using physical force.

Your comparision is flawed.

Originally posted by Draco69
As a tired and rather weary veteran KMC member, I really don't feel like like sorting through scans. I've done my time. 🙂

So if you want to see Zod's superspeed that apparently you don't think he has, I suggest you look it up.

Originally posted by Draco69
Superman has survived planetary explosions.

One of his highest durability feats was surviving the explosion of a nebula which contains thousands of galaxies.

So, Rhode Island? Not so much.

Originally posted by Draco69
No, not really.

I remember SHC immigrants since they're rather irritating.

You really need to get over yourself.

Originally posted by Draco69
It's rather simple. Zod has superspeed. In bloodlust, Zod will use superspeed. Unless, CIS states he won't.

Show me where WWH can effectively counter superspeed on Zod's or Superman's level.

If you can, I'd be happy to debate with you.

However this "LALALA Zod doesn't have superspeed!" is rather tiring, dear.

Originally posted by Draco69
Lord, I hate parrotfashioning. It shows lack of original thought.

WWH's strength and healing is impressive but rather useless against speed.

The amount of strength he has is irrelevant when he can't hit his target.

The ability to heal wounds is rather irrelevant when your foe can rip off your arm before you've had a chance to regrow it.

You're continuing to skip around the issue of Zod's superspeed and WWH's inability to counter it.

Your response will be predictable as follows:

A) "Show me a scan of Zod's speed....yes, I know he's a Kryptonian who's on Superman's level but I wanna see it anyway!"

B) "How will WWH be able to counter Zod's speed?....I'll have to get back to ya on that Miss. Katie Couric!"

WWH beats the living hell out of Zod. It doesnt matter if he even tried blitzes. It still wouldn't take World War Hulk out, would only make him stronger almost instantly, and sooner or later Zod would get one-shotted.

Zod can't win any type of close brawl with World War Hulk.

His best best is some kind of BFR - but thats likely to get him destroyed on attempt.

At best he can fly around and throw stuff from afar....

WWH can't beat Zod for the majority because unlike Sentry he would use everything at his disposal. Krytonians are more powerful than any brick and by the way WWH did not stalemate Juggs 😐

Originally posted by iceman24567
Krytonians are more powerful than any brick and by the way WWH did not stalemate Juggs 😐

Tell that to the likes of Kalibak and Doomsday.

Zod gets the floor wiped with him whenever he get in range. Otherwise all of Zod's assaults get brushed off in moments.

World War Hulk one-shots Zod.