Originally posted by AllanklesAssumptions then.
FC is the last "crisis" the dawning of a new reality much as IC shaped the DCU and COIE (even more before that). I don't see what The End changed or how its influence reverberated through the mainstream MU for years like COIE, IC (hell Identity Crisis).Every crisis changes the entire structure of the DCU from the character versions to the way each reality is structured.
Originally posted by I'm Bran
You said nothing.lol at hypocrisy though. You don't like it, it didn't happen. That is great logic no? Trick, isn't that awesome LOGIC! Trick, how sweet was that logic? Trick, what great logic? Etc.
Starlin created some good Thanos stories. Thanos Quest. The Infinity Gauntlet. Etc. He's also the guy who had Thanos with the PG get knocked around by incredibly weaker opponents. Unlike other characters, Starlin actually likes to invest story into Thanos. His Thanos stories aren't comparable to anyone/thing else. Write it off because of a writer... but that writer created him (and thus the creator can tweak around until the character fits the creators grand view). And if we're going to write that off, then we might as well write Thanos off. Thanos was never created then. I may very well in the near future go to Marvel with an obscure character named Thanos, and tell them the deal with this character. Sounds insane doesn't it; me being a comic writer?
That's also funny on another level Trick, because you were backing Sun Dipped Superman in another thread. Terrible story. And an incredibly huge Superman fanboy wrote it.
Trick, you'd think you'd be a little more held back after getting banned... twice. 😬
Darkseid never got a kill on him until it's been proven. It hasn't been proven though has it?
Didn't he end up 'killing' Darkseid? Although he came back, but that's a win in my books...
He's also got a couple of stalemates, and times when he gets the upper hand... etc.
And just because you're being... bias towards Superman, that doesn't mean it's not a 'low feat'. If he's above Skyfather or whatever, then he shouldn't have that loss period.He never said that Trick. He said that he does it like FS did. That doesn't mean he's anywhere near FS, it means he can do a similar feat. 😬
Give me a ****ing break. Thanos is by far the most wanked character on this forum. He also happens to be terribly written for someone supposedly at his level of importance.
I freely admit my bias towards Superman, both as a character and on this forum. But it's also a fact that DC seems to share said bias and gives we, the readers, good reason to back it up. So Casey was a huge superman fanboy. He at least doesn't demean other characters to make Superman look good. Are you really going to claim Superman of all people should be used as low feat? Not to mention the idea that DS and Superman have never fought while DS was in his true form.
And since no one since FS has done this maneuver, gee, ya think maybe you need to be PC level to do it? Cause Ronnie was rediculously powerful back in the day. I call BS on the idea of Mangeto of people redirecting the Omega Force.
The only good Crisis, story-wise, so far, was Infinite Crisis. COIE was off the wall and horribly boring through the entire first 6-7 issues, and FC went from lame, to cool, to being lame again...and Superman: Beyond 3D made no f*cking sense whatsoever, although his cosmic suit was pretty cool...
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Originally posted by TricksterPriestNo. Good for him. Him getting wanked has no relevance here, unless you're implying that I'm wanking him, because I'd find that funny to say the least. Terribly written... hmm... do explain.
Give me a ****ing break. Thanos is by far the most wanked character on this forum. He also happens to be terribly written for someone supposedly at his level of importance.I freely admit my bias towards Superman, both as a character and on this forum. But it's also a fact that DC seems to share said bias and gives we, the readers, good reason to back it up. So Casey was a huge superman fanboy. He at least doesn't demean other characters to make Superman look good. Are you really going to claim Superman of all people should be used as low feat? Not to mention the idea that DS and Superman have never fought while DS was in his true form.
And since no one since FS has done this maneuver, gee, ya think maybe you need to be PC level to do it? Cause Ronnie was rediculously powerful back in the day. I call BS on the idea of Mangeto of people redirecting the Omega Force.
When did Starlin do this? And being a fanboy is enough to make the character look a lot more powerful than normal. You don't have to demean other characters to make the writing apparently invalid according to you.
It should be taken into consideration. Never called it a low feat, you would be the one saying that based on level... I'd call it a simple loss relevant to DS.
Good. Too bad that Darkseid isn't being used here, no?
Since no one has tried to do this maneuver since FS you mean?
Good for you (or I mean, of course you would). I was only replying to what you said to Bently.
Originally posted by Enyalus
The only good Crisis, story-wise, so far, was Infinite Crisis. COIE was off the wall and horribly boring through the entire first 6-7 issues, and FC went from lame, to cool, to being lame again...and Superman: Beyond 3D made no f*cking sense whatsoever, although his cosmic suit was pretty cool...[/rant]
It's safe to say you aren't the target audience. Also, Superman Beyond is an ingenius storyline, but obviously you're not familiar with how Morrison writes. It's meta-fiction, not just a story.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
It's safe to say you aren't the target audience. Also, Superman Beyond is an ingenius storyline, but obviously you're not familiar with how Morrison writes. It's meta-fiction, not just a story.
No. My god, it was ****ing confusing. The first half of the first issue didn't even make any sense, and you had to tie it all together yourself later. And the "vampire monitors?" Yuck. Come on...I like most of Morrison's stories, but jesus...
Originally posted by Enyalus
No. My god, it was ****ing confusing. The first half of the first issue didn't even make any sense, and you had to tie it all together yourself later. And the "vampire monitors?" Yuck. Come on...I like most of Morrison's stories, but jesus...
Superman Beyond had its good and bad but overall it is a clever idea portraying Monitors as "vampires" of story. In a way the Bleed, the Orrery fits better into the DCU and the Monitors place among DC's cosmics becomes more clear.
The Bleed is simply a manifestation of "story" and obviously the vampire symbolism comes from there.
Personally I think the major problem with Beyond is that it doesn't fit neatly into FC unless DS's fall affected or disrupted the Bleed.
Originally posted by Enyalus
The only good Crisis, story-wise, so far, was Infinite Crisis. COIE was off the wall and horribly boring through the entire first 6-7 issues, and FC went from lame, to cool, to being lame again...and Superman: Beyond 3D made no f*cking sense whatsoever, although his cosmic suit was pretty cool...[/rant]
To me FC is the best Crisis. Didn't really like IC, and COIE was too straight forward and impersonal. You could say COIE probably had the greatest sense of threat with IC feeling more typical, FC was a little less predictable and it portrayed the Apokoliptons (DS especially) as more frightening.
The villains in FC seem more personal making the heroes more vulnerable than they have ever been, probably why I consider it the best of the crisis. But I have to say the last few issues( Revelation and FC 7) will probably make or break how this series is viewed in the future.