between vader and the emperor

im just curious..theres only a 20% gap between vader and the emperor, but there seem to be so many that fill that gap...anyone care to place all the sith who are between vader and the emperor in power??

Caedus...

Dooku?

Bane and Revan, of course.

I doubt Dooku is, and there's really no concrete evidence that would put Revan in there either.

I hate the written word's casual inability to portray facetiousness.

caedus ,bane, exar kun nihilus(as far as sheer power goes) and starkiller.

^Technically SK was never a sith. But yeah Caedus,Bane,Kun and Nihilus are above Vader. As far unknown sith go, Nadd, Plagueis and Ragnos have a shot but since they are unknowns they can't be included.

Naga Sadow?

Originally posted by Vorpal Ruin
Naga Sadow?

Starkiller was not a Sith - he was Vader's Hand. Not an Emperor's Hand like Mara and Mara certainly was not as strong Galen. In Force potential Galen may have been stronger than Kyp, but that is an argument that'll never be answered.

I can think of a few names that may be stronger than Vader, but not close to Sidious in the following order:
1. Darth Bane/Darth Caedus
2. Darth Revan*
3. Exar Kun
4. Darth Malak
5. Darth Traya

*Reason I listed Darth Revan was he had not fully reached Sith potential, but was unnervingly strong enough in the Force. When he became obsessed with the Ancient Sith that's when his true strength in the Force was demonstrated. But what I can't figure out is after the Council captured him, why didn't they strip him of the Force?

Originally posted by Darth Truculent
Starkiller was not a Sith - he was Vader's Hand. Not an Emperor's Hand like Mara and Mara certainly was not as strong Galen. In Force potential Galen may have been stronger than Kyp, but that is an argument that'll never be answered.

I can think of a few names that may be stronger than Vader, but not close to Sidious in the following order:
1. Darth Bane/Darth Caedus
2. Darth Revan*
3. Exar Kun
4. Darth Malak
5. Darth Traya

*Reason I listed Darth Revan was he had not fully reached Sith potential, but was unnervingly strong enough in the Force. When he became obsessed with the Ancient Sith that's when his true strength in the Force was demonstrated. But what I can't figure out is after the Council captured him, why didn't they strip him of the Force?

Revan's character should have been developed more because of his enourmous strength. He is counted to be one of the most powerful Sith in history. But you're absolutely right about Traya - I should have put Ulic quel -Droma or Ajunta Pall.

I really like Revan because of his persona. Anakin for me just couldn't cut it - When Anakin turned to the darkside I wonder how he would have fared against the power Revan wielded at Mustafar.

Originally posted by Darth Truculent
Starkiller was not a Sith - he was Vader's Hand. Not an Emperor's Hand like Mara and Mara certainly was not as strong Galen. In Force potential Galen may have been stronger than Kyp, but that is an argument that'll never be answered.

Reason I listed Darth Revan was he had not fully reached Sith potential, but was unnervingly strong enough in the Force.

But you're absolutely right about Traya - I should have put Ulic quel -Droma or Ajunta Pall.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I hate the written word's casual inability to portray facetiousness.

Sorry.

Exar Kun, Bane and Caedus are definitely up there. Nihilus probably is, as well.

Revan is a potential candidate, yes.

But Malak and Traya? Doubt it.

And I have the feeling Plagueis was extremely powerful. It's shame we'll never know.

I agree, though virtually none of those guys are miles above vader.

No one's "miles" above Vader. Palpatine isn't "miles" above Vader.

I know that, but some people believe that they are.

*cough*Bane*cough*Nebaris. Ahem.

And kotor fanwankers too *cough*Kotor3*farts* Ahem *lol*.

Think Raynar Thul or Lomi Plo could be candidates for this? Rayner was strong because of his connection to the nest, and Lomi was a very clever jedi with her own nest and able to cloak herself from anyone with doubts, which is a incredibly useful skill imo.