Yuga Khan&Darksied vs Galactus&Tyrant

Originally posted by Enyalus

2) The ALE is a mathematical proof of Darkseid's lordship over all existence. Which means that, while it was Darkseid's fall which caused the singularity, IMO it was the ALE which allowed him to warp everything in it into his image.

Wrong, the ALE is mathematical proof of Darkseid lordship over all sentient life. It doesn't help him fold space and crush time, nor as it ever been displayed as having such properties both in FC and in the Kirby comics or Simonson's Orion.

Originally posted by Allankles
Wrong, the ALE is mathematical proof of Darkseid lordship over all [B]sentient life. It doesn't help him fold space and crush time, nor as it ever been displayed as having such properties both in FC and in the Kirby comics or Simonson's Orion. [/B]

Then how was it able to "remake all creation" if it only does that?

Originally posted by Allankles
Wrong, the ALE is mathematical proof of Darkseid lordship over all [B]sentient life. It doesn't help him fold space and crush time, nor as it ever been displayed as having such properties both in FC and in the Kirby comics or Simonson's Orion. [/B]

I didn't say it did. Darkseid was remaking everything in the singularity into his image. The ALE allowed him to do that. The singularity itself was his own doing, as a consequence of his fall.

Tyrant is the weak link.

A well-fed Galactus could take a few wins on team, even against FC DS.

Originally posted by Bentley
Tyrant is the weak link.

I don't know why you'd say this. Who did Darkseid kill in FC to place him above a full-powered Tyrant?

Originally posted by Enyalus
2) The ALE is a mathematical proof of Darkseid's lordship over all existence. Which means that, while it was Darkseid's fall which caused the singularity, IMO it was the ALE which allowed him to warp everything in it into his image.

Originally posted by Allankles
Wrong, the ALE is mathematical proof of Darkseid lordship over all [B]sentient life. It doesn't help him fold space and crush time, nor as it ever been displayed as having such properties both in FC and in the Kirby comics or Simonson's Orion. [/B]

Originally posted by Allankles
Nothing save an unknown plot device is standing up to the ALE. Not when it is mathematical proof of DS' lordship over all existence. As in it makes him god incarnate.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I don't know why you'd say this. Who did Darkseid kill in FC to place him above a full-powered Tyrant?

Tyrant, powered or not, has never shown the ability to exist beyond his physical form, Galactus could still destroy DS in that condition, Tyrant has never shown such flexibility.

Originally posted by Bentley
Tyrant, powered or not, has never shown the ability to exist beyond his physical form, Galactus could still destroy DS in that condition, Tyrant has never shown such flexibility.

Dude. Genis-Vell has shown the ability to suvive as pure energy in one case, and another without his body at all. So what?

How's that going to help him win?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
That's funny... I seem to remember you saying something completely different in a another thread: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=11402144&highlight=over+all+existence+ale#post11402144
I suppose someone was controlling your mind at the time...

Don't worry man they won't listen to anything that doesn't have DS doing everything in FC by himself, regardless of the war, of him falling & the ALE. Remember it's only because of his TRUE form that all of the events occured in FC. 🙄 😆

Originally posted by Enyalus
Dude. Genis-Vell has shown the ability to suvive as pure energy in one case, and another without his body at all. So what?

How's that going to help him win?

Tyrant cannot fully destroy Darkseid nor Yuga, how is he not the weak link?

Originally posted by Bentley
Tyrant cannot fully destroy Darkseid nor Yuga, how is he not the weak link?

How would Darkseid, as a literal disembodied spirit, hurt Tyrant? Because Darkseid's body would get trashed, and easily, by either one on team two.

Originally posted by Enyalus
How would Darkseid, as a literal disembodied spirit, hurt Tyrant? Because Darkseid's body would get trashed, and easily, by either one on team two.

Are you implying that DS has no feats at all without his old awful body? 😱

Anyway, DS can omega sanction him to time bfr. Tyrant has never traveled through time.

Originally posted by Bentley
Tyrant cannot fully destroy Darkseid nor Yuga, how is he not the weak link?

They can still be knocked out can't they?

As for the Time bfr.

The Silver Surfer has traveled/teleported in time, Galactus has, It would be piece of cake for Galactus to teleport Tyrant back.

Originally posted by Bentley
Are you implying that DS has no feats at all without his old awful body? 😱

He doesn't.

Originally posted by Bentley
Anyway, DS can omega sanction him to time bfr. Tyrant has never traveled through time.

Or Tyrant blasts him first. Or blasts him at the same time and overpowers DS's beams, ala Superman. (They come out in beam form, afterall.)

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Then how was it able to "remake all creation" if it only does that?

By taking away the gift god imparted on all sentient beings, by making every living thing Darkseid's church. The creation in this case is all that the old (true) god created and his greatest gift.

The word "anti-life" stems from the idea that you're not trully alive if you lack your will to live. It is DS belief that life in the cosmos is chaotic and therefore must be reshaped according to his idea of perfection.

Originally posted by Utrigita
They can still be knocked out can't they?

As for the Time bfr.

The Silver Surfer has traveled/teleported in time, Galactus has, It would be piece of cake for Galactus to teleport Tyrant back.

No No your wrong. Of course tyrant can't do anything of these things just like he can't use the PC to figure out supes weakness to a number of things. Oooo no of course not. 🙄

Originally posted by Utrigita
They can still be knocked out can't they?

As for the Time bfr.

The Silver Surfer has traveled/teleported in time, Galactus has, It would be piece of cake for Galactus to teleport Tyrant back.

Well, they would win only because Galactus rocks so much 😉 , Yuga may keep him busy so he doesn't make it back. Its still not a walk in the park for either team.

Tyrant has the reflexes to catch the Omega Beam that can be compared with the faster than flash bullet Batman used?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

I suppose someone was controlling your mind at the time...

Heh good find. By existence I meant all the sentient beings. In FC this was repeated several times.

Originally posted by Bentley
Tyrant has the reflexes to catch the Omega Beam that can be compared with the faster than flash bullet Batman used?

Galactus is multiple times faster than light. FP Tyrant wouldn't be...why?

Originally posted by Enyalus
Galactus is multiple times faster than light. FP Tyrant wouldn't be...why?

Galactus is faster than light, but he doesn't fight at that speed all the time, nor we can just suppose that he fought at full speed against Tyrant -given he didn't do it in many of his hardest battles-.

Darkseid was also dying because of the battle in heaven and he was killed by radion, I'm pretty sure that in a better shape he could hang with Tyrant.