Thanos Vs Final Crisis Darkseid

Started by quanchi11219 pages

Originally posted by Badabing
DS every time. Thanos is made to lose by his very nature. 😬
Thanos succeeds while ds continually fails. Even when Thanos dies he succeeds. Roght now he is beside the love of his life Mistress Death.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos succeeds while ds continually fails. Even when Thanos dies he succeeds. Roght now he is beside the love of his life Mistress Death.

U mean a collection of bones wrapped in a ugly coat....DS gets the best new god women u can find. Besides DS comes from a universe where people ACTUALLY THINK...marvel just turns to a bunch of enys when DS enters the picture 😉 .

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Thanos ultalizes the PC...it's about of him.
He has never to my recollection been said to have PC (and I've read every issue involving him, including the hidden bonus tracks).

The only time a Thanos has been said to have PC, is a clone who had to activate it. Activation meaning that even if DS did drain his PC, it would have no effect on regular Thanos levels. The PC being used on the clone was basically a powerup that he can activate at anytime, but chooses not to because it drives him mad.

So u believe Thanos own titan biology is responisble for his power......u sure u read every Thanos book,

Originally posted by The Great Galen
U mean a collection of bones wrapped in a ugly coat....DS gets the best new god women u can find. Besides DS comes from a universe where people ACTUALLY THINK...marvel just turns to a bunch of enys when DS enters the picture 😉 .
Ds sleeps with concubines. Thanos is currently with the abstract death who can take any shape he desires.
Originally posted by I'm Bran
He has never to my recollection been said to have PC (and I've read every issue involving him, including the hidden bonus tracks).

The only time a Thanos has been said to have PC, is a clone who had to activate it. Activation meaning that even if DS did drain his PC, it would have no effect on regular Thanos levels. The PC being used on the clone was basically a powerup that he can activate at anytime, but chooses not to because it drives him mad.

Celestial quest was when the clone used the pc.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
So u believe Thanos own titan biology is responisble for his power......u sure u read every Thanos book,
😂

That is basically an attempt at you dodging the point. Point is, Thanos doesn't have PC at this point at time. You sure you can even follow your own arguments?

Anyway...
I never said that anywhere. And for that to have any basis, you'd have to prove... something... besides your obvious ignorance of Thanos.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ds sleeps with concubines.
Most likely not.

Originally posted by I'm Bran
Most likely not.
Why would he associate with them then?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACxd2qjDYBQ The average new god concubine...this isn't even the elite concubine either.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Why would he associate with them then?
Because he 'likes' the company of Desaad.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos fails.
duryes

Originally posted by Allankles
Cosmic Oddyssey was retconned. DOTNG was the source entity not the ALE and even that part with the Source was retconned as being Supes p.o.v. and the way his mind understood the Source and DS' struggle with it. So DOTNG, Red Orion etc are consistent.
It wasn't retconned. It's specifically mentioned by Grant Morrison. However, the personal accounts can't be trusted since the ALE has never truly been comprehended before. So let's grant your premise that Cosmic Odyssey was retconned. So what? We're back at point A, where I thought we all agreed that prior history involving either Darkseid's power or the ALE's scope should be disregarded. I wasn't relying on Death of the New Gods or "Red Orion." At the same time, don't rely on only stories that characterize the ALE as only being mindcontrol. We all now agree that the ALE is not just mind-control. That can't be disputed.
Originally posted by kevdude
😂 I have never said to not take everything in there history as not true but I only half true of what can be comprehended.. Grant said "The Source" is the ultimate concept, it is the beginning and the end.
Grant Morrison also characterized the ALE the same way, "As with most of the weapons and artifacts from the higher vibratory world of the New Gods, we see only facets of the barely imaginable whole that is the Anti-Life Equation." As I said, this characterization clearly leaves open the idea that the Anti-Life Equation is more than just mind-control and could be responsible for breaking time and space. And I feel I have provided the on-panel proof supporting that.
Originally posted by fangirl101
You mean besides folding time and space like a tin can and dragging the multiverse down with in his singularity. LULZ at that thanos wanking and DS hating from the marvel fans. You all get on my god damned nerves. Seriously. Thanos's best feats include beating thor, professor hulk and the thing. LULZ.
As long as you admit that Darkseid's mastery of the ALE allowed him to accomplish those feats, I have no problem with your position. This thread is FC Darkseid vs Thanos after all. However, Thanos has resisted reality distortions, attempts to excise parts of his soul and mind-control on the highest level.

And to simplify: Barry Allen's Speed Force? > ALE effects, Captain Marvel's magic lightning > ALE effects, Wonderwoman's lasso > ALE effects. Cross-reference that the ALE can be overcome with Orion actually nearly destroying Darkseid's healthy form in the 4th World... and the gap might not be as insanely wide as you might believe. But Thanos seems to have nearly been killed by black holes... I think. So it's not unreasonable to believe FC Darkseid wins. The real point people are trying to make, is that FC Darkseid might not be so invulnerable to being simply attacked. But because we only saw Radion, Omega Finder Beams and counter-vibrations work, it's speculation, but honest speculation as to whether FC Darkseid could resist the infliction of non-plot-device physical harm. I think that's the main point here.

i thought batman said that darkseid got a beat down from orion and nearly die..what so great about that??sorry..i read Final Crisis and i don't understand anything about darksied in there..they said he fall and bringing the universe along with him and the next thing i knew...he's dead..

Originally posted by I'm Bran
Because he 'likes' the company of Desaad.
And concubines.
Originally posted by Badabing
duryes
Not here.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
It wasn't retconned. It's specifically mentioned by Grant Morrison. However, the personal accounts can't be trusted since the ALE has never truly been comprehended before. So let's grant your premise that Cosmic Odyssey was retconned. So what? We're back at point A, where I thought we all agreed that prior history involving either Darkseid's power or the ALE's scope should be disregarded. I wasn't relying on Death of the New Gods or "Red Orion." At the same time, don't rely on only stories that characterize the ALE as only being mindcontrol. We all now agree that the ALE is not just mind-control. That can't be disputed.
Grant Morrison also characterized the ALE the same way, "As with most of the weapons and artifacts from the higher vibratory world of the New Gods, we see only facets of the barely imaginable whole that is the Anti-Life Equation." As I said, this characterization clearly leaves open the idea that the Anti-Life Equation is more than just mind-control and could be responsible for breaking time and space. And I feel I have provided the on-panel proof supporting that.
As long as you admit that Darkseid's mastery of the ALE allowed him to accomplish those feats, I have no problem with your position. This thread is FC Darkseid vs Thanos after all. However, Thanos has resisted reality distortions, attempts to excise parts of his soul and mind-control on the highest level.

And to simplify: Barry Allen's Speed Force? > ALE effects, Captain Marvel's magic lightning > ALE effects, Wonderwoman's lasso > ALE effects. Cross-reference that the ALE can be overcome with Orion actually nearly destroying Darkseid's healthy form in the 4th World... and the gap might not be as insanely wide as you might believe. But Thanos seems to have nearly been killed by black holes... I think. So it's not unreasonable to believe FC Darkseid wins. The real point people are trying to make, is that FC Darkseid might not be so invulnerable to being simply attacked. But because we only saw Radion, Omega Finder Beams and counter-vibrations work, it's speculation, but honest speculation as to whether FC Darkseid could resist the infliction of non-plot-device physical harm. I think that's the main point here.

Thanos wasn't almost killed by a black hole.

^ Pretty sure he didn't enjoy the experience at all.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Pretty sure he didn't enjoy the experience at all.
I'm sure it wasn't comfortable, but he wasn't near death.

^ I suppose it's speculation either way. I can concede that.

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