New Genesis vs Asgard

Originally posted by iceman24567
Are you serious? It certainly isn't a show of raw power.... 😆

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
BUT DC ODIN IS ALSO A SKYFATHER. Not on the same level as Marvel, but he's around the same ballpark. That's the whole point. And for the record, DC Odin is not the same as the Old God Odin, from the 3rd world. And DOTNG isn't canon anyways.

"That fight has nothing to do with anything combat related. That isn't being idiotic it's called being intelligent."

🤨 stfugto Christ you're dense......facepalm

Originally posted by quanchi112
You were one of the same posters who mistakenly viewed current Captain Marvel as being in the same league as Shazam. Dc Odin is nowhere near marvel's Odin. This feat while nice doesn't translate into a combat related feat. What has dc Odin done to prove he is skyfather level?

Originally posted by fangirl101
HE's split the source into three with two others and created a pocket reality that held a being more powerful than an imp, dr. fate, and sentinal combined.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You were one of the same posters who mistakenly viewed current Captain Marvel as being in the same league as Shazam. Dc Odin is nowhere near marvel's Odin. This feat while nice doesn't translate into a combat related feat. What has dc Odin done to prove he is skyfather level?

Originally posted by iceman24567
👇 You fail and your bias fails people give you feats and you ignore them i don't know why you continue to troll.

I haven't read sandman and if cloud wants to put up some scans then I may change my mind.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That has nothing to do with how he handles himself in an actual fight. That is the point.

Hang on. So if I'm hearing you right, any feat outside a fight does not count when the combatents are in a KMC style match? And splitting the Source (Old God Odin, not modern DC Odin) is not a viable feat for gauging his power?

So in synopsis, you think Marvel Odin is more powerful than the 3rd world Odin, the Old God, correct? Never mind modern, just Old God. 😕

Originally posted by quanchi112
That has nothing to do with how he handles himself in an actual fight. That is the point.

He's actually a bit higher than Skyfather considering he created a pocket reality that held a being superior to two trans tiers and a skyfather lvl being. He also supplied a third of the power required to injure and split the all powerful source into 2. that is an actual battle feat. If you continue to troll, I will report you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I'm not trolling I am simply saying it doesn't translate over to a combat feat. If anyone has any scans of dc Odin that rivals marvel's Odin in terms of battle I am open to change my opinion.

I haven't read sandman and if cloud wants to put up some scans then I may change my mind.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Hang on. So if I'm hearing you right, any feat outside a fight does not count when the combatents are in a KMC style match? And splitting the Source (Old God Odin, not modern DC Odin) is not a viable feat for gauging his power?

So in synopsis, you think Marvel Odin is more powerful than the 3rd world Odin, the Old God, correct? Never mind modern, just Old God. 😕

Originally posted by fangirl101
Enviremental feats are how we determine herald lvl, skyfather, abstract etc.

He's actually a bit higher than Skyfather considering he created a pocket reality that held a being superior to two trans tiers and a skyfather lvl being. He also supplied a third of the power required to injure and split the all powerful source into 2. that is an actual battle feat. If you continue to troll, I will report you.

When was this splitting of the source mentioned? Which comic? I do not trust your context of anything.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Your lies are trolling telling me my own opinion about characters to discredit me and being wrong while failing 😐. My last stance on current Billy was that he isn't at Wizard Shazam levels until he gets the feats so you fail 😆

Since then we have seen him rocked by plain old Black adam.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I look at it as an impressive feat, but it doesn't determine how he matches up with anyone in a fight.
I determine levels on how these characters match up with one another. Some consider Ds a skyfather, but that makes no sense as Superman can beat him.

When was this splitting of the source mentioned? Which comic? I do not trust your context of anything. I recall very vividly you saying that Captain Marvel as the new shazam would destroy Thanos with the reality gem despite nothing to back it up.

Since then we have seen him rocked by plain old Black adam.

LULZ. Superman has Never rocked DS. They had never faced DS before. Remember that. FC. Retconned the shit out of every DS appearance ever. You lose.

In that case, by your own standards, The One Above All loses to someone with better feats. 🙂 Since he doesn't have any feats of him in combat afterall. 😂

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
In that case, by your own standards, The One Above All loses to someone with better feats. 🙂 Since he doesn't have any feats of him in combat afterall. 😂

Originally posted by fangirl101
LULZ. Superman has Never rocked DS. They had never faced DS before. Remember that. FC. Retconned the shit out of every DS appearance ever. You lose.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
In that case, by your own standards, The One Above All loses to someone with better feats. 🙂 Since he doesn't have any feats of him in combat afterall. 😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
The new Ds accomplished everything through the ale and figuring out how to debate for the Morrison Ds is all speculation. No, that is wrong. Odin is much different than TOAA. I don't need combat feats from the presence either. Odin has been compared to Ds though so with common sense I see him as less than Darkseid.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The new Ds accomplished everything through the ale and figuring out how to debate for the Morrison Ds is all speculation. No, that is wrong. Odin is much different than TOAA. I don't need combat feats from the presence either. Odin has been compared to Ds though so with common sense I see him as less than Darkseid.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I look at it as an impressive feat, but it doesn't determine how he matches up with anyone in a fight.
I determine levels on how these characters match up with one another.

Care to comment on how these two statements coincide? 🙂

Originally posted by fangirl101
You obviously DIDN"T buy FC secret Files. HE specifically let it be known that the ALE is not a powerboost. You lose. And His power in Seven soldiers was all his own. He was using the Omega powers to create realities. He even pwned the black racer. Lulz. I tire of your half assed debating. Read ALL of the comics before you debate agaisnt me. You know I buy ever single new god thing ever.

I have made my point.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I read it and know for a fact that the ale gives him a huge advantage and while it may not amp his own abilities it allows him avenues and possibilities his current powerset does not. He wouldn't seek it out if it did nothing significant for him.

I have made my point.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Your point sucks. There isn't anything in his set of abilities that he hasn't already done a million times before. LULZ at you for not knowing that. He's already folded time and space before he had the Ale. He's already time travelled, controlled souls, controlled minds, swapped space, etc. The ALE only allows him to wipe away free will and replace it with his own. nothing else. My point is bigger than yours. 🙄

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again, he won the war due to the ale. You can scream until your face turns read it won't change the fact HE NEEDED THE ALE.

Originally posted by fangirl101
You fail. IF he had used the ALE, there would have been no war.