Gladiator, Silver Surfer and Thor vs Cpt. Marvel, Superman and Martian Manhunter

Started by zeel13 pages

Originally posted by Silent Guardian
Superman would get owned by anyone on the other team.

Original Captain Marvel would lose, but I am not sure about Current Billy Batson. However, if memory serves didn't he just get owned by Black Adam and Isis.

I am assuming Martian Manhunter would lose, since DC ranks him below supes. However, I am not positive he loses. I think if he is still highly vulnerable to fire he probably goes down.

Current supes is capeable of beating anyone on team 1 under the right conditions. Surfer being the hardest then thor then glads.

Classic captian marvel could prolly stalemate glads, I dont see him beating surfer but he could beat thor under the right conditions.

Martian manhunter gets raoed by everyone on team 1. he cant maintain his physical stats long enough to keep up with the likes of glads or the others.

Gladiator could stalemate current supes at best.

Silver surfer could beat anyone on team 2 under the right circumstances.

Current thor could beat anyone on team 2. Classic thor could stalemate or beat supes under the right circumstance. Head own martianmanhunter and he could beat captian marvel under the right circumstances.

Originally posted by Avlon
The sonic boom was caused by Thors force. It wasn't speed. It's right there on the panel.

As for "faster than the human eye can follow"...a human magician can do that... how do people think slight of hand works?

Thor IS faster than a human being or at least he should be portrayed so, but he is no true speedster.

So you're saying that a impact can create a sonic boom. I'm reading the scan kind of different.

Originally posted by zeel
Current supes is capeable of beating anyone on team 1 under the right conditions. Surfer being the hardest then thor then glads.

Classic captian marvel could prolly stalemate glads, I dont see him beating surfer but he could beat thor under the right conditions.

Martian manhunter gets raoed by everyone on team 1. he cant maintain his physical stats long enough to keep up with the likes of glads or the others.

Gladiator could stalemate current supes at best.

Silver surfer could beat anyone on team 2 under the right circumstances.

Current thor could beat anyone on team 2. Classic thor could stalemate or beat supes under the right circumstance. Head own martianmanhunter and he could beat captian marvel under the right circumstances.

I disagree with this post.

Current surfer would get a high majority over supes.

Thor would get a high majority over supes as well since he IS more powerful.

Gladiator would get a majority over supes for the same reason, he is just more powerful then supes.

I dont know where you got you info from because its wrong.

Originally posted by zeel
Current supes is capeable of beating anyone on team 1 under the right conditions. Surfer being the hardest then thor then glads.

Classic captian marvel could prolly stalemate glads, I dont see him beating surfer but he could beat thor under the right conditions.

Martian manhunter gets raoed by everyone on team 1. he cant maintain his physical stats long enough to keep up with the likes of glads or the others.

Gladiator could stalemate current supes at best.

Silver surfer could beat anyone on team 2 under the right circumstances.

Current thor could beat anyone on team 2. Classic thor could stalemate or beat supes under the right circumstance. Head own martianmanhunter and he could beat captian marvel under the right circumstances.

👆 I agree with most of this.

Originally posted by zeel
Current supes is capeable of beating anyone on team 1 under the right conditions. Surfer being the hardest then thor then glads.

Classic captian marvel could prolly stalemate glads, I dont see him beating surfer but he could beat thor under the right conditions.

Martian manhunter gets raoed by everyone on team 1. he cant maintain his physical stats long enough to keep up with the likes of glads or the others.

Gladiator could stalemate current supes at best.

Silver surfer could beat anyone on team 2 under the right circumstances.

Current thor could beat anyone on team 2. Classic thor could stalemate or beat supes under the right circumstance. Head own martianmanhunter and he could beat captian marvel under the right circumstances.

You need to explain to me how he beats SS. As for Thor I think Thor would most lokely take him, but I could see Supes taking him down before SS anyway. As for Glads I am not totally sure about him fighting Supes. I know he is pretty powerful, and in multiple threads people said he was simply stronger than Supes, but I am not sure. Now that I said I understand what you mean when you say "under the right conditions" and in certain circumstances.

Originally posted by carver9
I disagree with this post.

Current surfer would get a high majority over supes.

Thor would get a high majority over supes as well since he IS more powerful.

Gladiator would get a majority over supes for the same reason, he is just more powerful then supes.

I dont know where you got you info from because its wrong.

This is more what I was thinking. However, I am not necessarily sure that Thor is stronger than Supes, but I know his weakness to magic comes into play here. Allowing Thor to get the better of him.

Originally posted by fangirl101
I'd do a battle forum against you that Wondy can indeed put down any of the four you named. Don't get your feelings hurt please.

Do you mean that's within her ability to win, or it's within her ability to take the majority? Because if it's the latter I'd gladly accept in regards to Gladiator or the Count(and maybe Supreme if I have time to properly research)...

Not that I'm trying to call you out or anything like that, just offering to take up the challenge if it's a case you really want to prove for WW.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Do you mean that's within her ability to win, or it's within her ability to take the majority? Because if it's the latter I'd gladly accept in regards to Gladiator or the Count(and maybe Supreme if I have time to properly research)...

Not that I'm trying to call you out or anything like that, just offering to take up the challenge if it's a case you really want to prove for WW.


I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were the one whom I was addressing.

Originally posted by fangirl101
I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were the one whom I was addressing.
Since superman lost to supreme, i guess wonderwoman can beat superman also??...http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=300030

Originally posted by james2099
Since superman lost to supreme, i guess wonderwoman can beat superman also??...http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=300030

Just becuz one character loses to one doesn't mean that another similiar character would lose. That's abc logic and doesn't work all of the time. As is, Wonder Woman's tiara has been shown to be able to one shot superman.

Originally posted by fangirl101
I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were the one whom I was addressing.

I know you weren't, that's why I specifically noted that I wasn't trying to call you out. If it's an argument that you only want to have with james2099 that's cool, I was just offering to take you up on it in case you were wanting to showcase some new WW tidbits you dug up and he didn't want the match. You're gonna give yourself an ulcer if you don't stop tripping over nothing...

Originally posted by fangirl101
I'm sorry. I didn't realize you were the one whom I was addressing.
Scared?

heehe haahaa hoohoo

Originally posted by darthgoober
I know you weren't, that's why I specifically noted that I wasn't trying to call you out. If it's an argument that you only want to have with james2099 that's cool, I was just offering to take you up on it in case you were wanting to showcase some new WW tidbits you dug up and he didn't want the match. You're gonna give yourself an ulcer if you don't stop tripping over nothing...

Of course you know I got new wonder woman goodies. But at the risk of people ruining my thread again with thier objections, i have decided to not post them. As far as a battle zone with you, I decline. my only point was that wonder woman could indeed put any of those guys down that he mentioned. As none of them are trans tier or skyfather, and she has a good record even against beings on that lvl.

Originally posted by Avlon
The sonic boom was caused by Thors force. It wasn't speed. It's right there on the panel.

As for "faster than the human eye can follow"...a human magician can do that... how do people think slight of hand works?

Thor IS faster than a human being or at least he should be portrayed so, but he is no true speedster.

I'll have to strongly disagree with this.

"Faster than the human eyes can follow" because of sleight of hand speeds really doesn't make sense in the context that the writer used to demonstrate this panel. Firstly, digging a tunnel is a complicated task and uses the whole body to do so, not just your hands (magicians have fast hands and use misdirection to fool you). Try moving your body in that way and move "almost faster than the eyes can follow". You'll be unsuccesful. You won't even be close.

As much as speed isn't part of Thor's powerset, this panel demonstrates that he can move at superspeed when the need arises.

Originally posted by Silent Guardian
You need to explain to me how he beats SS. As for Thor I think Thor would most lokely take him, but I could see Supes taking him down before SS anyway. As for Glads I am not totally sure about him fighting Supes. I know he is pretty powerful, and in multiple threads people said he was simply stronger than Supes, but I am not sure. Now that I said I understand what you mean when you say "under the right conditions" and in certain circumstances.

This is more what I was thinking. However, I am not necessarily sure that Thor is stronger than Supes, but I know his weakness to magic comes into play here. Allowing Thor to get the better of him.

The only way i see supes beating SS is removing him from his board. I said under the right conditions. SS for the majority. As far as glads goes. Supes has more will power then glads and can dig doown more then glads can. And if supes gets pissed glads is not going to fair well. this is almost a even fight.

Originally posted by carver9
I disagree with this post.

Current surfer would get a high majority over supes.

Thor would get a high majority over supes as well since he IS more powerful.

Gladiator would get a majority over supes for the same reason, he is just more powerful then supes.

I dont know where you got you info from because its wrong.

You pretty much agreed with everything i said i dunno what your complaining about. YA id give the edge to surfer for sure. But current supes is alot tougher then he was a year ago. Id still give the edge to surfer i acknowledged he could beat supes. Current thor would beat supes most the time. classical thor would be able to under the right conditions beat supes.

Team 1 easely

Originally posted by carver9
I disagree with this post.

Current surfer would get a high majority over supes.

Thor would get a high majority over supes as well since he IS more powerful.

Gladiator would get a majority over supes for the same reason, he is just more powerful then supes.

I dont know where you got you info from because its wrong.

i love how you keep hitting us with all these "facts" of yours. ermm

Originally posted by carver9
I disagree with this post.

Current surfer would get a high majority over supes.

Thor would get a high majority over supes as well since he IS more powerful.

Gladiator would get a majority over supes for the same reason, he is just more powerful then supes.

I dont know where you got you info from because its wrong.

Originally posted by Raoul
i love how you keep hitting us with all these "facts" of yours. ermm

They are all facts. I just confirmed them.

lol

Originally posted by Spire
They are all facts. I just confirmed them.

😂