Originally posted by cloud102
Yes, he never has. I've seen all their fights and they look about even. In DOTNG, Orion stalemated Superman. Metron mentioned that it would go on for quite sometime, so he interfered. In Action Comics, Orion took on an enraged Superman and was able to not get KO'D.
But how does he kill Henshaw. Parallax and other high end characters have tried, nothing seems to work.
Originally posted by cloud102
He doesn't necessarily have to kill him. Orion could trap CS in the Mother Box. All he Hank is is energy. I say Orion wins a majority.
Henshaw has taken over New God tech before even controlled parts of the source wall itself. Theres no reason to think he wouldn't be able to control the MB.
Originally posted by DarthZoom
I never said he's taken on a Mother Box, but he has taken over New God tech and has even been able to use parts of the source wall. Why wouldn't he be able to take over a mother box?
Because Mother Box's have taken over pretty much everything, too. Magic, cosmic energy, EM energy of all sorts, psychic energy, etc... The Mother Box only reacts to it's user. So, I don't see Henshaw taking it over, especially if it's attached to a user.
Originally posted by cloud102
Because Mother Box's have taken over pretty much everything, too. Magic, cosmic energy, EM energy of all sorts, psychic energy, etc... The Mother Box only reacts to it's user. So, I don't see Henshaw taking it over, especially if it's attached to a user.
Can you prove that it's immune to outside control or manipulation? Your saying a Mother Box is more resistant to Henshaw then the source wall?
Originally posted by DarthZoom
Can you prove that it's immune to outside control or manipulation? Your saying a Mother Box is more resistant to Henshaw then the source wall?
He's never tried, so neither of us can prove it. It's just my opinion that Orion wins. The Source Wall isn't all that, anyway. Certain New Gods have gotten out and Superman was able to effect it, so, meh.
Originally posted by cloud102
He's never tried, so neither of us can prove it. It's just my opinion that Orion wins. The Source Wall isn't all that, anyway. Certain New Gods have gotten out and Superman was able to effect it, so, meh.
I'm not talking about getting out of the source wall, I'm talking about being able to manipulate it.
Although I am glad your saying this is only an opinion. And one you have every right to have. I agree that their may not be enough info to really know how this turns out.
Originally posted by DarthZoom
I'm not talking about getting out of the source wall, I'm talking about being able to manipulate it.Although I am glad your saying this is only an opinion. And one you have every right to have. I agree that their may not be enough info to really know how this turns out.
Hank can manipulate a lot of stuff and it's quite possible he can a Mother Box, but Mother Box's are known to take over many different types of energy. What is Hank? Energy. So it can be shown both ways.
BTW, Orion's Astro Force has been said to manipulate the fundamental forces in the universe. That could also be a key factor in this fight, so Orion has more to draw upon, even IF his Mother Box is being taken over.
Hank won't be able to manipulate the Astro Force.
Originally posted by cloud102
Hank can manipulate a lot of stuff and it's quite possible he can a Mother Box, but Mother Box's are known to take over many different types of energy. What is Hank? Energy. So it can be shown both ways.BTW, Orion's Astro Force has been said to manipulate the fundamental forces in the universe. That could also be a key factor in this fight, so Orion has more to draw upon, even IF his Mother Box is being taken over.
Hank won't be able to manipulate the Astro Force.
Again we don't have enough proof to say what Henshaws limits are.