Secret Warriors

Apologies if this thread already exists and I missed it....

Anyone pick up the first issue? Any thoughts, comments?

Last page reveal was pretty epic

Spoiler:
Hydra were responsible for SHIELD's creation and have been the big epic company hiding behind the MU, plotting for years. All the other supposedly massive groups such as AIM or the Secret Empire are just Hydra factions. Not even Fury knew how big they were or how far their influence stretches until this issue.

Wait - why would Hydra create SHIELD?

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Wait - why would Hydra create SHIELD?

For lulz?

yeah it kind of threw me for a loop as well. becuase here we have hydra that was awesome enuff to set itslef up as the empire who rules from behind the shadows, when superhumainty was in its relative infancy but when it comes down to it, it always ends up being helmed by these crazy ass, incompetent lunatics....that some lone hero can take down at anytime....Lulz indeed 😄

Yeah, I didn't really understand why Hydra was the power behind SHIELD, either. Seems like they'd be able to take over the world any time they wanted.

And apparently Osborn is in league with Hydra, too. Possibly even running it.

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
For lulz?

Well that's one hell of a retcon.

Originally posted by manjaro
yeah it kind of threw me for a loop as well. becuase here we have hydra that was awesome enuff to set itslef up as the empire who rules from behind the shadows, when superhumainty was in its relative infancy but when it comes down to it, it always ends up being helmed by these crazy ass, incompetent lunatics....that some lone hero can take down at anytime....Lulz indeed 😄

At least that would explain how Red Skull gained his influence in Hydra and AIM, he is friends with the boss.

First issue was ok, hopefully the next issue will be better

So the consensus is that it's pretty good?

I'm torn between my distaste for Bendis and my enjoyment of his co-author's Nightly News , one of the better indie titles of the last couple of years.

Good Lord, Marvel is going down the toilet hole.....

First, first some goddamn reason The Green friggin' Goblin was given control over every superhuman in the country.

Now, apparently SHIELD was created by Hydra to kick it's own ass?! Pffft. It doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.

Originally posted by Enyalus

And apparently Osborn is in league with Hydra, too. Possibly even running it.

So Osburn is now in charge of Hydra?!

The Green Goblin?!

This guy?!:

Originally posted by Draco69
So Osburn is now in charge of Hydra?!

The Green Goblin?!

This guy?!:

Hydra personnel and soldiers wear green...it all makes sense now, doesn't it?

On a related note: The Kryptonite Man & Brainiac also work for Hydra, in order to secretly conquer DC Earth. Oh, and the Guardians of the Universe. Ever wonder why they've recently started acting like dictators? Yeah - fascists. You got it right.

Originally posted by Draco69
So Osburn is now in charge of Hydra?!

The Green Goblin?!

This guy?!:

Whoa!!! It never said in the issue that Osborn's in charge of Hydra, as far as I read that wasn't even implied. ❌

As for retcons, not really. Of course Hydra would be responsible for SHIELD's creation. The very reason SHIELD was created was to combat terrorism and Hydra's the biggest group of terrorists. It's kinda obvious they'd be responsible for SHIELD's creation. It's like saying "WHOA WAIT A MINUTE, THERE'S POLICE BECAUSE OF CRIMINALS???!!!" 🙄

In fact if you read the classic issue in which Nick Fury becomes head of SHIELD, you see he is already attacked before he can settle into his chair!

Personally I thought the first issue was great. Well written opening and clear mission statement for the series. Dialogue was a little too cheesy. Art was gorgeous. The supplementary material at the end was the first time it felt like it had a purpose other than just taking up space, which IMO is a first for any Marvel or DC comic.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Wait - why would Hydra create SHIELD?

Well obviously for a different means than it actually turned out because SHIELD has always been the biggest thorn in Hydra's side, especially when Fury was in charge.

Originally posted by willRules
Whoa!!! It never said in the issue that Osborn's in charge of Hydra, as far as I read that wasn't even implied. ❌

No, but Nick mentioned that if the Dark Avengers showed up, then he would know that the current administration is corrupt. And they did show up. And Osborn runs the Dark Avengers. So...

Originally posted by Enyalus
No, but Nick mentioned that if the Dark Avengers showed up, then he would know that the current administration is corrupt. And they did show up. And Osborn runs the Dark Avengers. So...

.....the current administration is corrupt. We already knew that from Dark Avengers #1. That doesn't necessarily mean Osborn runs Hydra, in fact it might mean he's unknowingly working for them seeing as one of the Hydra sub-factions included the US government and SHIELD (which is now HAMMER) ✅

Damn Bendis retconning too much stuff.

This series is gonna show Fury as such a badass to make up for his absence the last few years ✅

Originally posted by willRules
Well obviously for a different means than it actually turned out because SHIELD has always been the biggest thorn in Hydra's side, especially when Fury was in charge.

Of course not, there wouldn't be need of selling weapons and using traffic if there was not a competent police to make the task difficult. Then, Hydra could resell the things SHIELD gets and reuse them to continue the circle, winning more and more from each party involved including the government.

Seems clear to me.