Superboy Prime&H/P Doomsday vs Asagrd

Originally posted by xJLxKing
WOW! I am NOT disputing if Odin can destroy a Galaxy. I am not disputing if he is stronger then a Sun or not. The answer to that is simple. YES HE IS strong, and YES he can destroy a galaxy. However, I never have seen him use Matter Manipulation to what you are trying to refer to. You are just speculation that if he create an attack big enough to destroy a galaxy, then he can also change an a galaxy buster and change it into any using Matter Manipulation. It is TWO different powers, not the same power. One is Matter Manipulation and the other is Energy. Just get over it. Damn man!

I also think that Odin's power can destroy SMP armor, but if they are fighting at the best of their ability as you(i think) mentioned, then he can still avoid it.

Lord God. What are u talking about? You say that uve never seen Odin use matter manipulation to what im trying to refer to.lulz, What have u ever read of Odin in the first place? Obviously little to nothing. Further what im talking of Odin doin is NOT even matter manipulation!. He isnt manipulating any matter. It has directly to do with his energy output and control over energy which is his energy manipulation as i said earlier. Odin can produce nearly all forms of energy in huge amounts. I have already mentioned the example of his fight against forsung which CREATED SUNS and him creating suns when showing thor the power of the Odin force. So in no way am i speculating about ANYTHING. In addition he isnt "creating an attack big enough to destroy a galaxy", he is releasing enough energy to destroy a galaxy therefore it has nothing to do with the attacks size. IT once again therefore has to do with his internal energy output. Then u combine that with the fact that he can output nearly all forms of energy and u get the reason he can perform feats such as creating suns and stars. He is not using two different powers at all as it is all part of his energy manipulation. Please ive explained this as easily as i can so i beg of u, no more retarded replies

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Again, I am not disputing that. I know Odin has the power to beat down the armor very easily.

So what you're basically arguing about is pointless.

Originally posted by carver9
So what you're basically arguing about is pointless.

I think he is just highly confused, i never talked about Odin matter manipulating anything. I only talked about him using his energy manip and even mentioned examples of him doing this on huge scales. This fellow it seems ignores these examples and keeps bringing up inane and irrelevant examples of Odin being unable to matter manip LT and similar nonsense. 🙁

Originally posted by Naija boy
I think he is just highly confused, i never talked about Odin matter manipulating anything. I only talked about him using his energy manip and even mentioned examples of him doing this on huge scales. This fellow it seems ignores these examples and keeps bringing up inane and irrelevant examples of Odin being unable to matter manip LT and similar nonsense. 🙁

So he doesnt think that odin can matter manipulate; one of the most powerful if not the most powerful sky father in comic. A character that created a solar system with a thought. A character that shook the entire universe during a fight. Matter manipulate is beneath odin and anyone that think that he cant do it is insane.

Originally posted by carver9
So he doesnt think that odin can matter manipulate; one of the most powerful if not the most powerful sky father in comic. A character that created a solar system with a thought. A character that shook the entire universe during a fight. Matter manipulate is beneath odin and anyone that think that he cant do it is insane.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
No! Thats now what this is about. I am simply trying to say Odin has a LIMIT to his matter manipulation and we have never seen him use matter manipulation to the same degree that Naija is talking about. He just wont accept it and just speculates.

Something is obviously wrong with u. Can u not read? Ive clearly explained that i am not referring to Odin matter manipulating anything. Further what speculation have i made? I have mentioned examples of Odins creating multiple stars. Please stop b4 u make a further fool of urself.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
No! Thats now what this is about. I am simply trying to say Odin has a LIMIT to his matter manipulation and we have never seen him use matter manipulation to the same degree that Naija is talking about. He just wont accept it and just speculates.

But how can you say that he has a limit when there wasnt one shown of him on panel. The guy created a solar system with a mere thought. I'm pretty sure that he can throw off enough red sun radiation or create an explosion big enough full of red sun energy the way naj explained.

Originally posted by carver9
But how can you say that he has a limit when there wasnt one shown of him on panel. The guy created a solar system with a mere thought. I'm pretty sure that he can throw off enough red sun radiation or create an explosion big enough full of red sun energy the way naj explained.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
So your saying he has no limits?

I dont think that he has a limit to the extent that you're putting him at. I honestly think that the feat that you are arguing about, odin could replicate that EASILY, without breaking a sweet.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Something is obviously wrong with u. Can u not read? Ive clearly explained that i am not referring to Odin matter manipulating anything. Further what speculation have i made? I have mentioned examples of Odins creating multiple stars. Please stop b4 u make a further fool of urself.

WOW!! First of all, I never argued that he can't destroy a Galaxy. I am well aware that he can destroy a galaxy. However, there is absolutely no way that he can alter his energy blast(which can destroy a galaxy) and change it's form to emit red solar radiation. NOPE

Actually yes there is and u know what its called................(wait for it)............ENERGY MANIPULATION!

Originally posted by h1a8
Time is of the essence.
Odin wouldn't have time to blink.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Actually editing your post wont help your argument. Allow me to quote myself and then your reply.

lulz, well at least ur attempts to be smart are better than ur usual nonsense.

In the post u quoted what did i say he can do? ENERGY MANIPULATION. Why did i claim he can do this because, he HAS done it before. He has shown to be able to release blast of various energy forms in huge amounts, thans to his poweroutput. As seen below

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Odin/OdinvsForsung2.jpg

Here while fighting forsung across the galaxy the mere residual energy he releases is creating multiple stars. So as i said he can release more than enough red sun radiation to put Supes prime down if he so wishes. Further proof is below

In this example where Odin creates planets and stars (high level matter and energy manipulation)

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/2848/odingalaxy2md5.jpg

Now To further show ur retardation lets even look at some of ur daft statements.

No! Thats now what this is about. I am simply trying to say Odin has a LIMIT to his matter manipulation and we have never seen him use matter manipulation to the same degree that Naija is talking about. He just wont accept it and just speculates.

Note that its after this that i make my claim that i never talked about Odins MATTER MANIPULATION. Why because i referred to his ENERGY manipulation and mentioned examples of him using this said manipulation on levels enough to put down supes prime. Why was i so clear in this differentiation u might ask? Can u guess? Well due to ur initial idiocy of course!

WOW! I am NOT disputing if Odin can destroy a Galaxy. I am not disputing if he is stronger then a Sun or not. The answer to that is simple. YES HE IS strong, and YES he can destroy a galaxy. However, I never have seen him use Matter Manipulation to what you are trying to refer to. You are just speculation that if he create an attack big enough to destroy a galaxy, then he can also change an a galaxy buster and change it into any using Matter Manipulation. It is TWO different powers, not the same power. One is Matter Manipulation and the other is Energy. Just get over it. Damn man! I also think that Odin's power can destroy SMP armor, but if they are fighting at the best of their ability as you(i think) mentioned, then he can still avoid it

Here u claim that Odin releasing different forms of energy is straight up matter manipulation. This i why in subsequent posts i continuously refer to it specifically as ENERGY MANIPULATIION as it is something that directly deals with his ability to produce different forms of energy contrary to ur foolish claim. So it isnt two different powers, it is encompassed within his energy manipulation

So please now tell me where and how i have speculated or somehow altered my stance. Rather u are the one who has been and still is highly confused and still have failed to make even one minutely reasonable point throughout this discussion. But its seems u enjoy wallowing in such foolishness and ignoring evidence so carry on.

lulz, well at least ur attempts to be smart are better than ur usual nonsense. In the post u quoted what did i say he can do? ENERGY MANIPULATION. Why did i claim he can do this because, he HAS done it before. He has shown to be able to release blast of various energy forms in huge amounts, thans to his poweroutput. As seen below http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/...nvsForsung2.jpg Here while fighting forsung across the galaxy the mere residual energy he releases is creating multiple stars. So as i said he can release more than enough red sun radiation to put Supes prime down if he so wishes. Further proof is below In this example where Odin creates planets and stars (high level matter and energy manipulation) http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/...ngalaxy2md5.jpg Now To further show ur retardation lets even look at some of ur daft statements.

Actually yes there is and u know what its called................(wait for it)............ENERGY MANIPULATION!

Then you changed your argument again saying that Odin can create a dwarf star(which I did not debate, or argue )uaing matter manipulation. Again I did not debate

which is found in this page. Please stick to your argument. Don't try and change this to me. I am NOT arguing if Odin can defeat SMP. I easily and nicely stated that Odin destroy the galaxy using an attack that emit solar radiation. However, if you want to continue your idiocy please do so.
So good job at totally changing what the argument is about clapping clap

I'm glad that you admitted that because the battle that odin was in when shaking the universe is more then enough to take prime out.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
[B]You don't understand do you. I was arguing the entire time that Odin CAN'T create an attack that can destroy a galaxy while using matter manipulation so it can emit solar radiation. At first your argument was....(I quote)

My God! this level of foolishess is unparralelled. First of all i NEVER mentioned Odin using matter manipulation. why u keep saying i did i have no idea. Even in the posts u keep daftly quoting its energy manipulation i mentioned. Further i never changed my argument. My argument was and still is that Odin can emit different forms of energy with equal outputs. I explained this by referring to the energy Odin used in his fight with forsung which created multiple suns AND if u looked at a the scan destroyed a galaxy as an after effect.

hen you changed your argument again saying that Odin can create a dwarf star(which I did not debate, or argue )uaing matter manipulation. Again I did not debate which is found in this page. Please stick to your argument. Don't try and change this to me. I am NOT arguing if Odin can defeat SMP. I easily and nicely stated that Odin destroy the galaxy using an attack that emit solar radiation. However, if you want to continue your idiocy please do so. So good job at totally changing what the argument is about

False again. I did not change anything. The forsung example completely destroyed ur pitiful argument. Moreover i never referred to Odin using matter manipulation once again. I always refferred to it as energy manipulation and argued and proved the scope of Odins energy manipulation powers. I repeatedly focused on the energy creating multiple stars because that is more than enough output to take out prime but as the scans i posted show, it did infact destroy a galaxy as collateral damage and hence would do so even easier if he had actually intended to wreck the galaxy.

So no i did not change anything. All uve shown is that ur highly confused.

I don't know what xJLxKing is babbling about. It's crystal clear that his stance was that simply because Odin can bust galaxies doesn't mean he can turn that kind of energy attack into red solar radiation. Why? Because his stance was that Odin wouldn't be able to kill Prime w/ the solar suit on. Then you post two scans stating very specifically that Odin has limitless energy and was creating stars as an afterthought. It's fairly evident that he can kill Prime with ease.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I don't know what xJLxKing is babbling about. It's crystal clear that his stance was that simply because Odin can bust galaxies doesn't mean he can turn that kind of energy attack into red solar radiation. Why? Because his stance was that Odin wouldn't be able to kill Prime w/ the solar suit on. Then you post two scans stating very specifically that Odin has limitless energy and was creating stars as an afterthought. It's fairly evident that he can kill Prime with ease.

Good post and very true. Odin>>> prime

Originally posted by quanchi112
What? Your responses are all the same. You think that Superman Prime can kill him before he blinks when he has never killed anyone worthy of note that quickly.

I argue with CIS being off.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I don't know what xJLxKing is babbling about. It's crystal clear that his stance was that simply because Odin can bust galaxies doesn't mean he can turn that kind of energy attack into red solar radiation. Why? Because his stance was that Odin wouldn't be able to kill Prime w/ the solar suit on. Then you post two scans stating very specifically that Odin has limitless energy and was creating stars as an afterthought. It's fairly evident that he can kill Prime with ease.

I disagree.
Speed kills.

Originally posted by carver9
Good post and very true. Odin>>> prime

the only thing he can do to put prime down is if he use a massive red solar radiation..if he can't do that..he gonna get a beat down..his attack isn't that great..like quan said..he can't even put thanos down..