Greatest Rilvalry of all time

Started by Cartesian Doubt5 pages

Originally posted by Original Smurph
I don't see where I stated anything concerning religion.

You claimed you could present your opinions as facts because nothing was necessarily fact.

You then essentially asserted that someone was wrong based on what we know (the facts) about Russel and Hume.

Oh God this is so annoying ... re read my post.

The God bashing in my last response, isn't point of the post. Its an example of when higher levels of evidence are required to produce what we regard as knowledge, mainly because the stakes of the claim are higher.

Ok if you don't want a humorous example i'll provide a more mundane one.

I claim that my Uni locker is locked. There is nothing in the locker, so the stakes are very low in this case.

However If you where going to hide 20,000 pounds of cocaine in my locker, and we found that it had been burgled, you would now be a lot more skeptical about my the claim; i had locked my locker ?

When the stakes are higher, the evidence required to prove your justified true belief increase proportionally.

Thats what the God bashing was trying to highlight. ... God !

When it comes to asserting that Bertrand Russel is clever, we require very little evidence, as its quite a verifiable trivial claim.

When it comes to proving the claim that there is an all powerful psychopathic God who is simultaneously all loving and all knowing, the stakes have have increased substantially. In this case we have to turn to logic, rational and science as sources of Authority. The claims of a few nutcases who lived nearly 2,000 years ago while spouting irrational contradictions, are not going to hold any weight when the stakes are this high.

As i mentioned previously the claim that I know that Bertrand Russel is clever, requires far less intensive scrutiny as the stakes are low.

Therefore I "KNOW" that Bertarnd Russel is clever, but I don't "know" that I didn't dream him or that the world is flat etc.

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
This doesn't really effectively challenge anything. Your response amounts tovery circular reasoning which is unfortunately common.

"Your arguement is bad, because your argument is bad"

Its funny how one can't help noticing that word idiosyncratic sounds a bit like the words idiot and spastic put together ?

Well that's my opinion and it's very kind of you to ridicule me for it 😄 Nah, I wouldn't insult you because of your view and I hope you can find the decency not to do the same to me ✅

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
So how exactly do you know that your God loves you ?, i hazard a guess that it maybe based on what has been said by the bible or what someone has interpreted in the bible and then passed onto yourself. Its funny how i've heard simillar interpretations and am yet to be convinced that any God, whether its Muhammad, Jehovah, Yahweh, Darksied, Jesus, Zeus, Xenu or Zoltan loves me in any way what so ever. However im skeptical about the lock ness monster, UFO's and Father Christmas as well. The point is, unless you've had some Cartesian innate idea about God existence, you cannot claim your perspective on religion hasn't been influenced by another hearsay source of Authority. In the end all Christian sources of Authority lead back to the bible. I would take the rationality of David Hume and Bertrand Russel (Those you have idiosyncratically claimed to be ignorant) over that weird hypocritical nonsense any day of the week.

Well I'd love to go into a debate with you about the historical reliability of the Bible (especially when compared to other sources from the period and numerous other religious sources) but that seems like a another derailed conversation for another time.

Did I gather this from my interpretation of the Bible? From what someone told me about the Bible? No actually. I know the comment I made from one of many personal experiences. My biggest and most significant influence in my mind is undoubtedly a higher power speaking to me on a very personal level. ✅

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
Oh God this is so annoying ...
At last, we agree.

You've done a wonderful job of dodging everything I've said, and managing not to address the one point that I've consistently highlighted- the fact that you're completely hypocritical and inconsistent with what you regard as a reasonable argument. You simultaneously believe that your opinions can't be wrong because nothing can be proven as fact, and believe that others' opinions are wrong. That is the only point to this whole discussion, and not once have you actually responded to it, instead resorting to discussing the irrelevant and off base, and then telling me I need to re-read what you've written.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
At last, we agree.

You've done a wonderful job of dodging everything I've said, and managing not to address the one point that I've consistently highlighted- the fact that you're completely hypocritical and inconsistent with what you regard as a reasonable argument. You simultaneously believe that your opinions can't be wrong because nothing can be proven as fact, and believe that others' opinions are wrong. That is the only point to this whole discussion, and not once have you actually responded to it, instead resorting to discussing the irrelevant and off base, and then telling me I need to re-read what you've written.

Can you not actually read my posts or are you illiterate or something ?

Can we please get on topic? God-bashing has NOTHING to do with tremendous rivalries...

Courtney Love - Sanity

Amy Whinehouse - Being sober

Woody Allen - Desire to participate in the first role in his movies

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
I suppose David Hume, Frederick Nietzsche, Jean Paul Sartre, Bertrand Russel are all ignorant then ?

Yes, yes, yes and yes.

Good vs Evil

Originally posted by kgkg
Good vs Evil

Like I said, Dr.Light vs Age of consent.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Like I said, Dr.Light vs Age of consent.
there's an age for consent?.........droolio

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Yes, yes, yes and yes.

🙄

Last in-thread warning, kids. Rex already told you to stop with the trolling and off-topic crap. At this point, it's an official warning to anyone who continues it.

Originally posted by Digi
Last in-thread warning, kids. Rex already told you to stop with the trolling and off-topic crap. At this point, it's an official warning to anyone who continues it.

Troll

Originally posted by Nihilist
there's an age for consent?.........droolio

Not in my mind 😎

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
Can you not actually read my posts or are you illiterate or something ?
lulz