Ventress and Maul vs Mace

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Ventress and Maul vs Mace

All Out.

I'd put my money on Sam L.

My first instinct is to go with Mace (what with being a fanboy and all...) but I think that he might actually struggle with this.

Mace.

Hmm... I'd say that after a long, tiresome, fierce duel, Mace takes this.

They might inflict enough wounds to kill him, and after the hellstorm of this fight I'm not to sure he'll be able to use the force to stop th bleeding and other stuff.

But yeah, Mace will win the battle, but will he survive it is the major (?)

Lightsaber wounds bleed now?

Yeah I was gonna say.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Lightsaber wounds bleed now?
Shit, good point but even so I'm guessing they're good enough to get a few dozen knicks in...

Collectively, they might do something.

Or not.

I definitely see Mace winning but I don't know if survives the fight or not.

This is a good thread. Idk, but I'm gonna have to go with Mace ftw.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Lightsaber wounds bleed now?

I was under the impression that everyone here has watched the first Star Wars movie.

P.S. Mace after a struggle.

Originally posted by Forum Ninja
I was under the impression that everyone here has watched the first Star Wars movie.

P.S. Mace after a struggle.

You also notice that the ANH scene was one of a kind?

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
You also notice that the ANH scene was one of a kind?

Yes. And?

Originally posted by Forum Ninja
Yes. And?
It's rather outnumbered by the other G-canon scenes.

I see. What does that change? Hopefully you're not appealing to a majority. That's a hell of a rotten fallacy.

Originally posted by Forum Ninja
I see. What does that change? Hopefully you're not appealing to a majority. That's a hell of a rotten fallacy.

Well, he hasn't appealed to the rest of us, so it wouldn't be an appeal to the majority. At all. So your usage is wrong.

The truth is, the ANH scene is an irregularity, an abberation. It does not fit any other source, at any level of canon. It is an outlier, and can be ignored.

(Anyway, didn't the wound close over instantly? There wasn't an arterial blood spurt going so the argument could be made that it did close the wound.)

Actually, I remember reading a book which stated that one of the characters struck so fast the wound didn't even cauterise.

It was ever in ROTS, shatterpoint or one of the legacy books, though I'm not sure. Definitely remember reading it though.

Yes. Lightsaber wounds can make things bleed. Let's say you don't cut in a particular manner or you cut very fast. A lot of Jedi are trained to cut and dismember in a concise manner. Kenobi was older and may have gotten rusty. It could have been due to various reasons. It happened though. It's not non-canon that his arm was severed and bled. It happened! Poor aqualish Ponda Baba bled. Also, in "Darth Maul" (EU Canon) Mighella bleeds after Maul strikes her in the BS HQ. After her body drops.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ponda_Baba

Wookieepedia:
One important note about lightsaber wounds is that they rarely bleed profusely, even when a limb had been severed. The energy blade cauterized the wound as it passed, and thus even a severe wound did not tend to bleed heavily.

It is the exception, rather than the rule, for lightsabers to inflict a wound that causes any kind of bleeding at all. The ANH encounter is one of the few cases of such an occurrence. We cannot assume that any given lightsaber wound will bleed. If you want to suggest that Ventress and Maul's attacks will injure Mace in such a way that he bleeds then it will be up to you to prove that their attacks will be performed differently from the majority of the Saga.

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
It is the exception, rather than the rule, for lightsabers to inflict a wound that causes any kind of bleeding at all. The ANH encounter is one of the few cases of such an occurrence. We cannot assume that any given lightsaber wound will bleed. If you want to suggest that Ventress and Maul's attacks will injure Mace in such a way that he bleeds then it will be up to you to prove that their attacks will be performed differently from the majority of the Saga.

I never said otherwise. I know there are few cases. My whole point was that it happens, not that an LS wound bleeds more often that it is cauterized. I never suggested that they would be wounded in such a way.

You seem to be trailing off a little here.