10 year old minister? · Religion Forum

inimalist Junior Member

Originally posted by MilitantDog
I've seen parrots repeating what humans have said back to them "parrot fashion". This does not equate to understanding by the parrot.
This child has had bible rubbish drilled into him probably from birth to the point where he is just regurgitating it. It would be impossible for a child of that age to fully understand and comprehend the meaning, context and consequences of the things he is saying.

I'm sorry, but you have no basis for this aside from anti-religious rhetoric.

What meanings, what consequences? You guys keep saying this, yet the only examples that have been thrown out are from other videos of child preachers.

There is nothing from the available evidence that shows this child is in any way being forced, nor that they don't understand the incredibly simple message they are saying.

This ISN'T political church propaganda. Its a kid talking about a kids story.

Originally posted by chithappens
I just dropped it cause no one is thinking about how this actually works in application.

how does it actually work in application?

Originally posted by .😮U812:.
Well it may not be the same video but these are still child preachers, this kid may be different than the ones that I saw but it still applies.

what still applies? Like, specifically, what part of the video do you think the kid doesn't understand?

And the idea that all child preaching is wrong is rather silly. Nothing can be generalized like that.

inimalist Junior Member

So, when I was 9, in grade 5, my school forced all the students to do public speaking.

My subject was Goalies, while another student talked about dreams. Hypothetically, at 9 I shouldn't know anything about goalies, and certainly this other child wouldn't have known anything about dreams.

oh wait, I forgot, when religion does something everyone gets pissed, until the government does it and we call it a different name.

Seriously, half the people in this thread would be making a way better point if they at least acknowledged that there is nothing special about the way religion socializes children. Anyone this against having kids speak in church better as **** not have them in a government school.

.:OU812:. Member

Originally posted by inimalist
what still applies? Like, specifically, what part of the video do you think the kid doesn't understand?
And the idea that all child preaching is wrong is rather silly. Nothing can be generalized like that.

I haven't looked at this video, if he is talking about how he feels that is different than preaching in my opinion. Getting up in front of your class and talking about a subject is different than telling the word of God and how to live by his teaching, the bible requires a level of understanding to convey his teachings. If I got up in front of my class and talked about my religion that is one thing but getting up in front of my class and telling them that they are sinners for not following his word is something else for even I know that I do not fully understand all that is in the bible. Doing the public speaking is not really about the subject that you choose but to get up in front of a group of people and to talk about any subject, you could have picked video games or what ever. The difference is that this is the holy word of God.

inimalist Junior Member

Originally posted by .😮U812:.
I haven't looked at this video,

wicked

I didn't read the rest of your post

.:OU812:. Member

Originally posted by inimalist
wicked
I didn't read the rest of your post

Why not? This is about a children preaching their religion, it does not matter if it is this video or the 3 that I talked about.

So I looke at this video and it is the same kid that I saw on the news doing the faith healing.

inimalist Junior Member

Originally posted by .😮U812:.
Why not? This is about a children preaching their religion, it does not matter if it is this video or the 3 that I talked about.

this entire thread is about discussing the content of a video. You did not watch the video, thus, there is not much you are going to be able to discuss.

Secondly, you came into a thread about religion and voiced a knowingly ignorant opinion. You clearly have a bone to pick with anything religious, as you pass sweeping judgment with no evidence, and thus I have no interest in being preached at.

If you are looking for an overarching discussion about the concept of child preachers in general, I'm not the person you will have it with, as I understand the world to be more nuanced than saying "all of this is bad".

.:OU812:. Member

The way that I read this was talking about children preaching and not just this one kid, if I miss read that I'm sorry. I did watch this video and it is the same kid that I saw with the other 3 and this one was doing faith healing, this video shows a tamed version of his preaching talking about how he feels about the word. I never said that it was all bad.

Mindship Snap out of it.

10 year old minister?

Seems to me he understands what he's saying as well as most ten-year-olds would understand something they're excited about. Is there family/community influence? Of course. Just like the rest of us. Can he help others with spiritual/life problems? Depends on the person looking for advice/help. Is it okay he may believe that everyone who doesn't follow his path is doomed to hell? No more/less than when an adult thinks it, though my hope is always that the truly religious (and not religionistic) can see past their own faith maps.

inimalist Junior Member

Originally posted by .😮U812:.
The way that I read this was talking about children preaching and not just this one kid, if I miss read that I'm sorry. I did watch this video and it is the same kid that I saw with the other 3 and this one was doing faith healing, this video shows a tamed version of his preaching talking about how he feels about the word. I never said that it was all bad.

can you post that video?

I would agree, that is less cool

Da Pittman "Pitt Happens"

Originally posted by .😮U812:.
The way that I read this was talking about children preaching and not just this one kid, if I miss read that I'm sorry. I did watch this video and it is the same kid that I saw with the other 3 and this one was doing faith healing, this video shows a tamed version of his preaching talking about how he feels about the word. I never said that it was all bad.

I think I've seen that video he is talking about on the Today show or something and it was kinda nuts, there was some white kid shouting hell and damnation on the street corner and his dad behind him. I couldn't care less if some kid wants to preach and people want to listen to them, it's more or a gimmick but I have to admit the kid is pretty good better than some adults I've seen.

.:OU812:. Member

Originally posted by inimalist
can you post that video?
I would agree, that is less cool

This is the one that I saw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDT3FCJ3RcE

Da Pittman "Pitt Happens"

Originally posted by .😮U812:.
This is the one that I saw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDT3FCJ3RcE

😆 I like how they have to bend down to get "healed" 😆

chithappens Senior Member

Originally posted by inimalist

Seriously, half the people in this thread would be making a way better point if they at least acknowledged that there is nothing special about the way religion socializes children. Anyone this against having kids speak in church better as **** not have them in a government school.

I never brought it up because I didn't think it really needed to be said.

My point has not been that teaching a child "the word" is wrong, but that ordaining a child as a minister is incredibly irresponsible.

Da Pittman "Pitt Happens"

Originally posted by chithappens
I never brought it up because I didn't think it really needed to be said.
My point has not been that teaching a child "the word" is wrong, but that ordaining a child as a minister is incredibly irresponsible.

Why?

.:OU812:. Member

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Why?

This is because a child doesn't fully understand the word of God and is trying to teach the meaning of his teachings to others.

Da Pittman "Pitt Happens"

Originally posted by .😮U812:.
This is because a child doesn't fully understand the word of God and is trying to teach the meaning of his teachings to others.

So, I have seen adults not even understand the Bible and try and shove it down peoples faces so what makes the kid any different? Hell just on this forum alone I have seen people of the same faith argue about what this means and what that means.

.:OU812:. Member

Originally posted by Da Pittman
So, I have seen adults not even understand the Bible and try and shove it down peoples faces so what makes the kid any different? Hell just on this forum alone I have seen people of the same faith argue about what this means and what that means.

We should all know in our hearts and mind what God wants from us, I am sad that people disagree about his word but I also understand that people see what they want to see in his teachings.

Da Pittman "Pitt Happens"

Originally posted by .😮U812:.
We should all know in our hearts and mind what God wants from us, I am sad that people disagree about his word but I also understand that people see what they want to see in his teachings.

So how are us "non-believers" supposed to follow his "teaching" if you guys can't even agree?

.:OU812:. Member

Originally posted by Da Pittman
So how are us "non-believers" supposed to follow his "teaching" if you guys can't even agree?

You should ask God himself, open yourself up to his love and he will ansswer you.

Da Pittman "Pitt Happens"

Originally posted by .😮U812:.
You should ask God himself, open yourself up to his love and he will ansswer you.

Oh please don't give me that, I get enough of that from JIA. I could go into my whole story but I did and he gave me the big'ol middle finger.