Konvikt vs Gladiator

Started by Galan0074 pages

Originally posted by Mindset
It wasn't really a joke, he has better durability than them.

I doubt a thunderclap is going to put him down for any significant amount of time.

I never said it would. I said that's how he countered Flash's ground blitz. Konvikt has more than enough strength to put Gladiator down.

Doesn't really matter though. Gladiator won't be able to BFR Konvikt, so this battle would stay confined to it's original field. That said, unless there's proof Glads has moved in teh nanoseconds on an actual planet (not flying around in space,) then why would I believe he'd be moving any faster than Superman and the like in this battle?

If there is proof, then I'll happily condede that point. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
I never said it would. I said that's how he countered Flash's ground blitz. Konvikt has more than enough strength to put Gladiator down.

Doesn't really matter though. Gladiator won't be able to BFR Konvikt, so this battle would stay confined to it's original field. That said, unless there's proof Glads has moved in teh nanoseconds on an actual planet (not flying around in space,) then why would I believe he'd be moving any faster than Superman and the like in this battle?

whats so significantly differentiates his feats in space and those on a planet?

Originally posted by Naija boy
whats so significantly differentiates his feats in space and those on a planet?
As far as speed goes? There's quite a few factors.

Originally posted by Galan007
I never said it would. I said that's how he countered Flash's ground blitz. Konvikt has more than enough strength to put Gladiator down.

Doesn't really matter though. Gladiator won't be able to BFR Konvikt, so this battle would stay confined to it's original field. That said, unless there's proof Glads has moved in teh nanoseconds on an actual planet (not flying around in space,) then why would I believe he'd be moving any faster than Superman and the like in this battle?

If there is proof, then I'll happily condede that point. 🙂

But you brought up the point of him countering Flash as proof that he could counter Glads, you nerd.

Originally posted by Mindset
But you brought up the point of him countering Flash as proof that he could counter Glads, you nerd.
Right, and if Glads was in some way ground blitzing Konvikt, then the maneuvers he used on some of ther heroes would, imo, be enough to at least slow/halt Gladiator.

Originally posted by Galan007
Right, and if Glads was in some way ground blitzing Konvikt, then the maneuvers he used on some of ther heroes would, imo, be enough to at least slow/halt Gladiator.
What is ground blitzing? You mean running?

I thought you just said in your response to my earlier post you weren't saying a thunderclap would affect him...

Originally posted by Mindset
What is ground blitzing? You mean running?

I thought you just said in your response to my earlier post you weren't saying a thunderclap would affect him...

I mean him blitzing a ground based opponent, on an actual planet.

You misunderstand. I think a thunderclap would certainly affect Gladiator - I don't think it would be enough to KO him, though.

Originally posted by Galan007
I mean him blitzing a ground based opponent, on an actual planet.

You misunderstand. I think a thunderclap would certainly affect Gladiator - I don't think it would be enough to KO him, though.

He blitzed Thor and Cannonball, not that they are speedsters or anything, though.

What makes you think a thunderclap will affect him?

Originally posted by Galan007
As far as speed goes? There's quite a few factors.

Scientifically yes ( i assume u r referring to friction levelS) but in comics i dont think such things play too much of a role. And still given gladiators strength level his speed wouldnt reduce substantially.

another glads blitz
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/4397/gladpower26gw.jpg

Originally posted by Mindset
He blitzed Thor and Cannonball, not that they are speedsters or anything, though.
The Thor one still makes me lol. And you mean the same battle with Cannonball where Gladiator used his 'most powerful punch' that not only failed to do anything, but Glads also became much weaker afterward, due to lack of confidence... That one? Because judging by that I'd think that once Konvikt tags Glads, his confidence would sure as hell sway.

Originally posted by Galan007
The Thor one still makes me lol. And you mean the same battle with Cannonball where Gladiator used his 'most powerful punch' that not only failed to do anything, but Glads also became much weaker afterward, due to lack of confidence... That one? Because I'm thinking that once Konvikt tags Glads, his confidence would sure as hell sway.
I don't think you read the Cannonball fight right, and why did you ignore the rest of my post?

Originally posted by Naija boy
another glads blitz
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/4397/gladpower26gw.jpg
Glads failing against Reed doesn't impress me.

That wasn't really Reed

Yeah, it was just an illusion.

It was actually Captain America with his shield.

😐

Originally posted by Mindset
I don't think you read the Cannonball fight right,
As far as his confidence swaying, thus making him much weaker? That's a well known fact, I thought?

Originally posted by Mindset
and why did you ignore the rest of my post?
Because I've already stated my opinion regarding that. Why keep going in a circle?

Originally posted by Galan007
As far as his confidence swaying, thus making him much weaker? That's a well known fact, I thought?

Because I've already stated my opinion regarding that. Why keep going in a circle?

I don't think you read the fight right.

You stated your opinion, you didn't state the reasoning behind you opinion.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Yeah, it was just an illusion.

It was actually Captain America with his shield.

😐

I don't remember if that is true or not, but if it is I don't see how that is a bad feat when Cap's shield is one of, if not the hardest substance shown in Marvel.

Originally posted by Mindset
I don't think you read the fight right.
Cannonball used Gladiator's confidence weakness against him.

Originally posted by Galan007
As far as his confidence swaying, thus making him much weaker? That's a well known fact, I thought?

Because I've already stated my opinion regarding that. Why keep going in a circle?

You are right kinda....

Canonball was able to kinetically absorb all the force of the punch. IMO it's going to be the greatest feat Cannonball has ever did and maybe ever will do. Not that canonball was stronger it was just the creative use of his powers. A few panels later it was explained that the move was completly experimental and he wasn't even sure if it was gonna work. BUt i guess it's better than standing there and being a bloddy stain on his hand.

Also Glads only loses confidence when his greatest hits do not faze a character at all. Konvict is nowhere near that category. He has fought the likes of Hyperion and DP Tyrant without even losing confidence.

Originally posted by Galan007
Glads failing against Reed doesn't impress me.

It wasnt really reed( iirc it was caps shield) and my emphasis was on his speed. further as i said before glads speed level wont be greatly reduced at all on a planetary environment.