Few thoughts about Karness Muur and Cade's Healing Technique

I was just thinking about this while reading the last Legacy comic. I wanted to get everyone's input on Karness Muur.
Based on what we've seen and what he has said, he seems to be a very powerful sith lord. Apparently a LOT more powerful than Krayt or any of the Jedi of that time. He claims to have easily slain sith more powerful than Krayt. Whether it's true or not remains to be seen but he was using force lightning to such a degree that he was lifting Krayt, another sith, both Imperial Knights, and Azalyn Rae, off the ground. Obviously gauging his power relative to other sith or Jedi of the SW mythos is hard, but I don't think it's a stretch to say that he was very powerful and more powerful than anyone in the One Sith.

When it comes to Cade's healing technique, it seems to be an inverse version of the shatterpoint. He can see the cracks and he can either destroy the item/being in question, or he can rebuild. It may not be the shatterpoint but it appears to be closely related to it. Also, there seems to be absolutely no defense for this technique. He obliterated Muur and his talisman easily and almost instantly. I don't want to claim Cade's raw powers make him a force titan, but I would think he is at least a top tier force user, for any period. And how much more powerful would he be had he continued training for those 7 years as a jedi/sith?

Is Wyyrlok the new leader of the sith?

Presumably. He did kill the leader and rescued the rest.

And was also Darth Krayt's closest associate in the One Sith, as were Wyyrlok's parents and grandparents.

Honestly, that caught me off-guard. I never thought Wyyrlok'd be the one who finally killed Krayt.

Wyyrlok seems more powerful than Krayt.

A lot of people seem more powerful than Krayt.

Whatever, I'm glad he's dead.

You have to ask yourself though. Having his kind of sith order is pretty much guaranteed to fail, so why waste 100 years building it up and expecting it to succeed and why dedicate a comic to it? I've seen the next 4 front pages of the the legacy issues so it should be interesting. They're going in a different direction apparently.

Originally posted by Publius II
A lot of people seem more powerful than Krayt.

Whatever, I'm glad he's dead.

I thought he was an interesting character. Certainly had more motivation for being an evil bastard than 90% of the Sith in SW.

Originally posted by Major Valerian
Honestly, that caught me off-guard. I never thought Wyyrlok'd be the one who finally killed Krayt.

Me neither. I never expected Wyyrlok would be one to kill Krayt. However, I expected if anyone would continue Krayt's legacy it would probably be Wyyrlok.

We never saw Krayt at his fullest...he's been declining into madness and ill health for a while.

I don't think we ever really will get to see Krayt in his prime. All he was doing was training his Sith in secret on Korriban for about a hundred years... I'm sure he was powerful but we never really got to see it. Karness dominated him after Azlyn caught him offguard, and Wyyrlok struck him down while he was horribly wounded.

Well as I've said, it appears Karness Muur was beyond Krayt and anyone in the "One Sith". I wonder how powerful Ajunta Pall must have been since he was the leader of the Dark Jedi Exiles.

What did Muur do that makes him so powerful?

Originally posted by Publius II
What did Muur do that makes him so powerful?

Possess others, use pretty powerful force lightning, and turn people to mutants (whatever they are called).

Originally posted by Publius II
What did Muur do that makes him so powerful?

He's taking force lightning from Krayt and another sith. Then he's dishing it out in Celeste Morne while levitating Krayt and the other sith as well as Azalyn Rae, Shado, and the imperial knights. His power seems to be immense. He also tells Krayt that he's easily slain sith more powerful than Krayt.

Originally posted by Captain REX
I don't think we ever really will get to see Krayt in his prime. All he was doing was training his Sith in secret on Korriban for about a hundred years... I'm sure he was powerful but we never really got to see it. Karness dominated him after Azlyn caught him offguard, and Wyyrlok struck him down while he was horribly wounded.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Possess others, use pretty powerful force lightning, and turn people to mutants (whatever they are called).

Rakghouls. And yes, that's pretty much how Karness became powerful than some of the other Sith. Using that little talisman of his was something. But I'm glad Cade destroyed it.

Speaking of which, I understood what his dad, Kol, had said when he stated, "That which can heal can also break." Guess Cade's healing power can also break the cracks too. Go Skywalkers! 🙂

But yeah, since Karness is long and gone, and Krayt dead... will Wyyrlok rule the "One Sith"? Maybe. I have a hunch something may happen...

I thought he used shatterpoint to break it, not the force lightning revive thing.

Originally posted by kotorfan
I thought he used shatterpoint to break it, not the force lightning revive thing.

Hmm... you know what? He did. Found it right here:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Shatterpoint