Gannondorf vs mundus

Started by ThunderGodEneru3 pages

Link defeats Ganon because he is the main character. Link has never beaten Ganon, PIS has.

Ganondorf has warped entire dimensions into Dark Realms which morph any being who enters. Zant, who was bestowed with a minute fraction of his power, was able to warp entire regions, merging them with the Twilight Realm, which turns all in it into a bodiless soul.

Ganondorf in his dying breath(kinda) toppled his entire castle with a shout.

He has disintegrated beings with punches, and has sent floors/ceilings crashing down with punches.

He has some decent speed feats, covering gaps between opponents instantly.

He has been stabbed in the head by the Master Sword when he did not have the Triforce of Power, and lived.

Ganon, even without full Triforce, ftw.

i argee ganondorf

Originally posted by First_Tsurugi06
As many have said, Link only ever defeats Ganon because 1. He's destined to as the chosen Hero and 2. He wields Ganon's biggest (and virtually only) weakness, and by canon is the only one who can despite individual Links being only slightly beyond a peak physical human at best, who wields certain items (a composite Link with everything he ever gained on the other hand can probably take alot of characters).

Link is actually well beyond a peak human. =/

And the thing that keeps him in the fight vs Ganon is the master sword. "No evil may touch it" essentially, he's curse proof and Ganon has to deal with him using physicly damaging means as long as Link holds the sword. And Link has retarded canon durability. He's the only being ever seen to take a hit from Ganon where Ganon's intention is actual harm (backhanding zelda in windwaker was obviously mercy on his part, he was oddly sympathetic in that game.).

but yeah, Ganon takes this, he's just too good. Ganon's what Mundus dreams of beign when he's all growed up D:

Mundus wins.

Not by feats he doesn't.

Hell, hardly even by status.

Even by status he is at best the devil.

By Ganon's status, he holds the power of one of the Gods who crafted the world from chaos, and is the most powerful character in Zeldaverse short of the three Goddesses themselves.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Not by feats he doesn't.
Did you see what he is capable of? Mundus takes on a half demon with speed, strength, etc. Ganon gets punked by an elf. Mundus wins.

Ganon gets "punked" by the only thing (and only person) that can so much as faze him, with elements of which Mundus is the exact opposite. The best thing Mundus did was kill some giant animal while in the form of three red orbs. Ganon did better feats off screen.

Not to mention that most Links by the end of the game are essentially nigh superhuman in terms of strength, magic, etc. The gameplay, tried and true as it is, just doesn't do him justice, just as PIS doesn't do Ganon such.

Originally posted by First_Tsurugi06
Ganon gets "punked" by the only thing (and only person) that can so much as faze him, with elements of which Mundus is the exact opposite. The best thing Mundus did was kill some giant animal while in the form of three red orbs. Ganon did better feats off screen.

Not to mention that most Links by the end of the game are essentially nigh superhuman in terms of strength, magic, etc. The gameplay, tried and true as it is, just doesn't do him justice, just as PIS doesn't do Ganon such.

Riding a horse while fighting Ganon doesn't impress me. Does it impress you?

Ganon gets 'punked' by an 'Elf' who Also carries the power of a goddess, and a sacred sword which protects him from evil, is probably the second most powerful (non deific)being in the Zelda verse under Ganon but is designed for all purposes to destroy really bad ass evil stuff. For one, Link > Dante =P

Ganon would crush Mundus no contest.. I don't see what you have to back up Mundus winning? Ganon has rediculous power, speed, TK, power over souls and dimensions, power over reality ( he can literally shift reality.) Will power such that he has ressurrected himself from that alone, his durability is proven to be beyond broken. (Even without his piece of the triforce he survives a sword to the brain, and with it he survived it three times over before being sealed away. Not to mention a castle coming down on him after a fight with Link which left him coughing up blood only to get back up angry.) He can disintegrate someone with a single punch, walk around without notice to a hole in his chest, possess people, teleport, fly, the list is endless. He is basicly a god. He's immortal, he has the power of a god, he is. If it looks like, acts like, and smells like one, it is one. What could Mundus possibly do to him? Ganon could seal him between dimensions, curse him, TK him.. without protection from Ganon's immense power Mundus would be helpless. (The thing that keeps Link on top is the protection granted by the master sword which evil cannot touch.) Mundus has what?

Link>Dante? Your stupid. Seal? Mundus could do the same, and he's can create illusions and he can create life and dementions he could so the same. Mundus is bascially a God also. Mundus changed a battle by flapping his wings. Mundus can possess? He can fly[probably teleport]sit in fire. Only Sparda could seal him, just because he does "A" to whoever doesn't mean he could do it to Mundus.

Ganon >> Sparda. =P Sealing him isn't even a priority though because Ganon can utterly destroy Mundus. There is nothing Mundus can do in the face of Ganon's raw power.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Riding a horse while fighting Ganon doesn't impress me. Does it impress you?

Not particularly, but going toe-to-toe with him four times in different scenarios, while beforehand gaining either weapons of transformations that at best put him at potential God-level, with spells that vary from warping to invulnerability, etc. DOES impress me.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Did you see what he is capable of? Mundus takes on a half demon with speed, strength, etc. Ganon gets punked by an elf. Mundus wins.
Mundus and his entire army was soloed by Sparda, who is even weaker than Dante. Mundus even in his own verse is pathetic.

Oh, and keep your A>B>C logic the hell out of my forum, would you kindly?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Riding a horse while fighting Ganon doesn't impress me. Does it impress you?
This is the worst usage of the strawman fallacy I can recall.

Originally posted by Gumachi
Link>Dante? Your stupid. Seal? Mundus could do the same, and he's can create illusions and he can create life and dementions he could so the same. Mundus is bascially a God also. Mundus changed a battle by flapping his wings. Mundus can possess? He can fly[probably teleport]sit in fire. Only Sparda could seal him, just because he does "A" to whoever doesn't mean he could do it to Mundus.
Link in many ways is more powerful than Dante, fact is, Link has the very specific powerset that allows him to take Ganon, and then there is the fact he is literally fated by the Gods to beat him every time.

Mundus cannot do everything Ganon has.

Create illusions? So could Zant, who possesses a minute fraction of Ganon's power.

Create life? Ganon does this for lulz in every game. He cannot create dimensions, when has he done this? Ganon on the other hand can and has, and in TP, Zant, who as mentioned is much weaker, was merging dimensions.

God is a title, Ganon is far more powerful by feats and logic.

Changed a battle by flapping his wings? Was that supposed to mean something?

Ganon can fly, and teleport, hell, even Zant can do this easily.

Only Sparda? No-Limits fallacy, and didn't Dante kill him?

Shit, Zant would have a good chance of beating Mundus, let alone Ganon himself.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Ganon gets 'punked' by an 'Elf' who Also carries the power of a goddess, and a sacred sword which protects him from evil, is probably the second most powerful (non deific)being in the Zelda verse under Ganon but is designed for all purposes to destroy really bad ass evil stuff. For one, Link > Dante =P

Ganon would crush Mundus no contest.. I don't see what you have to back up Mundus winning? Ganon has rediculous power, speed, TK, power over souls and dimensions, power over reality ( he can literally shift reality.) Will power such that he has ressurrected himself from that alone, his durability is proven to be beyond broken. (Even without his piece of the triforce he survives a sword to the brain, and with it he survived it three times over before being sealed away. Not to mention a castle coming down on him after a fight with Link which left him coughing up blood only to get back up angry.) He can disintegrate someone with a single punch, walk around without notice to a hole in his chest, possess people, teleport, fly, the list is endless. He is basicly a god. He's immortal, he has the power of a god, he is. If it looks like, acts like, and smells like one, it is one. What could Mundus possibly do to him? Ganon could seal him between dimensions, curse him, TK him.. without protection from Ganon's immense power Mundus would be helpless. (The thing that keeps Link on top is the protection granted by the master sword which evil cannot touch.) Mundus has what?

Again, Link has bs plot device weapons that aid him against Ganon which don't apply here. Mundus fought a half demon/human who was Sparda's son. He was defeated twice but has immense power as well and lost to a much worthier foe than Link.
Originally posted by Gumachi
Link>Dante? Your stupid. Seal? Mundus could do the same, and he's can create illusions and he can create life and dementions he could so the same. Mundus is bascially a God also. Mundus changed a battle by flapping his wings. Mundus can possess? He can fly[probably teleport]sit in fire. Only Sparda could seal him, just because he does "A" to whoever doesn't mean he could do it to Mundus.
Anyone who thinks Link is greater than Dante I agree is off their rocker.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Mundus and his entire army was soloed by Sparda, who is even weaker than Dante. Mundus even in his own verse is pathetic.

Oh, and keep your A>B>C logic the hell out of my forum, would you kindly?

Ganon has been beaten by Link how many times? Dante shits all over Link anywho.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
This is the worst usage of the strawman fallacy I can recall.
I'm just saying in dante's word the horse and what not would be annihilated very quickly. Its too fast paced for anything from Hyrule to contend with imo.