was hired by lucifer himself{a being shown later to be beyond the amala multiverse} to hunt down his candelbra of the sephiroth to open the entrance of the sealed hell which yahweh himself had sealed
toyed with the demi fiend, lucifer's greatest creation and in the end only let him live cause he wanted to see more of the ongoing drama and get his JACKPOT
easily withstood and had a part in defeating beelzebub, a demon beyond the amala multiverse
easily withstood the power of metatron an angel one with god and beyond the multiverse and also had a great hand in his defeat
withstood the power of lucifer himself and had a part in his defeat{technically} who was ALSO beyond the muyltiverse and even metatron.
survived the most evil and wicked cloister of hell{5th kalpa} while fighting the strongest demons and looked like he was just having afteroon tea.
resisted and had a hand in defeating kagutsuchi the light that destroyes the universe and gives birth to the next one.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
It was made under Altus and Capcom agreement (Capcom consulted Altus production team and that version of Dante was allowed by them), and Dante didn't demonstrate anything more there than he shows in DMC games powerwise. That game is just the ultimate show of which was stated in the end of DMC and DMC 2- than Dante has way surpassed his father's potential (his high demonic form in DMC 2 (Sparda form) was shortliving due to balance purposes but powerful enough to kill almost any enemy with a single energy blast) and becomes the strongest demon of his universe. DMC 2 is at about the same time as Nocturne and if you remember, Dante heads to Hell dimension to "clean" it. Nocturne explains how exactly that happens (though the RPG itself rather boring, we get to see Dante closer at its second half and main character is the f*cking emo Dante clearly outshines).
I think he wouldn't have a problem beating Zeus old ass. I also heard Dispair could wipe an entire universe clean of life.
Originally posted by Gumachi
@BT: WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT SIZE, OF COURSE YOU KNOW BIGGER DOESN'T ****ING MEAN BETTER.@TGE: And? Like I give a shit. Who isn't a fanboy?
Thing is, Zeus is not only massively bigger to a degree where it does matter, but Zeus is also better.
Originally posted by Gumachi
I think he wouldn't have a problem beating Zeus old ass. I also heard Dispair could wipe an entire universe clean of life.
The DMC fanboy forum? Despair is the most pathetic character and has ZERO feats
Originally posted by Burning thought
Thing is, Zeus is not only massively bigger to a degree where it does matter, but Zeus is also better.The DMC fanboy forum? Despair is the most pathetic character and has ZERO feats
I find Mundus better imo, but Zeus' size isn't anything to Dante--of course. Not Mundus MIGHT be at Zeus' waist--MIGHT at the most, but he damn shure isn't a Titan to Mundus, that's for shure.
2.When I said "he" I meant Dante, if you didn't know. So? Explain him being: "The most powerful evil god to ever exist" then. He was better than The Fates 😮💨
Originally posted by Gumachi
I find Mundus better imo, but Zeus' size isn't anything to Dante--of course. Not Mundus MIGHT be at Zeus' waist--MIGHT at the most, but he damn shure isn't a Titan to Mundus, that's for shure.2.When I said "he" I meant Dante, if you didn't know. So? Explain him being: "The most powerful evil god to ever exist" then. He was better than The Fates 😮💨
1. Erm, well Mundus is prob about as big as Zeuses leg at the most, and thats giving him credit.
2. Perhaps he was the most powerful in the DMC universe, but none of the GOW gods excist in that universe, nore does Christianities Satan. Also you claim he was better than the fates, what feats back this up?
Originally posted by Burning thought
1. Erm, well Mundus is prob about as big as Zeuses leg at the most, and thats giving him credit.2. Perhaps he was the most powerful in the DMC universe, but none of the GOW gods excist in that universe, nore does Christianities Satan. Also you claim he was better than the fates, what feats back this up?
1. Maybe.
2.Well, Mundus=Pluto=Roman God of Underworld, so atleast Mundus is a God as Argosax and Sparda is. But so far Dante[unless Sparda returns]is the most powerful in his universe, I also forgot to mention when I say "Argosax" I mean Dispair. Theoretically Mundus is Satan--but let's not get into this.
Originally posted by Gumachi
1. Maybe.2.Well, Mundus=Pluto=Roman God of Underworld, so atleast Mundus is a God as Argosax and Sparda is. But so far Dante[unless Sparda returns]is the most powerful in his universe, I also forgot to mention when I say "Argosax" I mean Dispair. Theoretically Mundus is Satan--but let's not get into this.
Ime sorry but hes not, not at all, hes a fictional character called Mundus, if he has simularities to Greek characters or Gods then thats fair and well but that does not make him that character, otherwise he would be named Pluto, and not Mundus.
Thats a guide listing, thats not a list of feats, thats a list of actions he can do in gameplay, which is pretty much all he shows up in.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Ime sorry but hes not, not at all, hes a fictional character called Mundus, if he has simularities to Greek characters or Gods then thats fair and well but that does not make him that character, otherwise he would be named Pluto, and not Mundus.Thats a guide listing, thats not a list of feats, thats a list of actions he can do in gameplay, which is pretty much all he shows up in.
You don't have to be called a certain person to be that person. He is identified as Pluto, in one of the books your read. Pluto=Roman God of The Underworld, it's not known if he has the same powers as the Greek Gods or not.
"Mundus is Latin for "World", "Universe", or even "Underworld", depending on the context. I'm sure you noticed, as did I, that Mundus' "home" in the Underworld was fashioned after the Parthenon in Athens (A Greek temple dedicated to Athena, upon which every Roman and Greek temple was fashioned after). A God of the Underworld, who lives as a Greek (Zeus style beard, lightning bolts and everything!) and whose name means "Underworld" in their derived language. "
"Mundus is the DMC equivalent to Pluto. "
Originally posted by Gumachi
You don't have to be called a certain person to be that person. He is identified as Pluto, in one of the books your read. Pluto=Roman God of The Underworld, it's not known if he has the same powers as the Greek Gods or not."Mundus is Latin for "World", "Universe", or even "Underworld", depending on the context. I'm sure you noticed, as did I, that Mundus' "home" in the Underworld was fashioned after the Parthenon in Athens (A Greek temple dedicated to Athena, upon which every Roman and Greek temple was fashioned after). A God of the Underworld, who lives as a Greek (Zeus style beard, lightning bolts and everything!) and whose name means "Underworld" in their derived language. "
"Mundus is the DMC equivalent to Pluto. "
Yes you do, nothing calls him Pluto, nothing....he is not a Roman god, never stated to be one either.
I dont care if he or other entities in the DMC fiction have a lot of influenced sources, most characters have connections to Greek mythology or other fictions.
Mundus is simply a featless entity, youve not backed up any of your claims, and certainly none for Despair embodied either.
Unless you can show me proof he isn't Mundus IS PLUTO, wether you want to admit it or not.
ª Devil May Cry: "There's a word left by a notable prophet when he visited this castle. It states, "Pluto shall come on the promised date and separate heaven and earth. One with black wings of treachery shall come and stand in Pluto's way."" ª Devil May Cry: "There's something written, "The confronter of the path, Pluto's dragon. Prove your bravery with your sword and the dragon will fall in its own flame.""
And Dante called him a God in DMC1: "Statue of a God. "
Kratos is called the son of Zeus, but in greek myth he isn't.
Mundus created tons of beings for one.
Number one, regarding the "Mundus = Pluto" argument; you cannot prove a negative. Burden of proof falls on the person making the positive claim. And simple influence is not enough to definitively state something like that.
However, on the other hand, the ruling here is that the Greek pantheon from GoW is not portrayed differently enough from how they are in the actual mythology to be considered different characters and thus are not allowed here.
Closed.