Celeste Morne and Cade Skywalker vs. Darth Bane, and Zannah

Started by kotorfan4 pages

I suppose you have a point there, but its not much.. Bane killed his dad by accident in his sleep. lol

um Exodus.. Krayt has his armor to block also...

And he wouldn't have died instantly because he couldn't kill himself instantly. lol

Originally posted by kotorfan
I suppose you have a point there, but its not much.. Bane killed his dad by accident in his sleep. lol
Which is neither as impressive nor a counterpoint. At all. One person, accidental, when he was twice her age, and it's Bane; if Johun Othone did it, you'd have a case.

It's not out of the scope of imagination that Bane will kill Cade and Celeste together. Zannah dies, though

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Ok, Celeste's force lightning is nothing to scoff at, but still...Bane could just throw up a force shield there.

Although Cade might be able to kill Zannah in a duel. Actually, given he walked over Talon and Nihl, that's not far out.

Nothing to scoff at? Her lightning basically raised up and pushed away 5 force users. Celeste by herself is nothing but with Muur, she's a force beast, as is Muur. Cade Skywalker is apparently superior to most, if not all of the One Sith, with virtually no training for 7 years. I don't know if he'd be able to take Bane but he'd kick stomp Zannah. Bane's going to have enough trouble as it is with Celeste+Muur, add Cade to that and he's dead.

Cade isn't a threat to Bane. The most he can hope to do is throw him off with telekinesis to stall, and even then he isn't doing any serious damage.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Stop talking about Zannah like she uses some ultra magical style that will flawlessly deflect every blow. She uses SORESU, a well known form that focuses on defense and she is far from the best we've seen with it.

Sarro didn't 'overload' her defenses, he fought smart, he threw her off and her had superior skill and stole her mobility.

Well said.

Physical strength doens't automatically equal a win or breaking through someone's guard. it obviously helps but isn't necessary if the attacker was skillful enough.

Its like saying that Yoda wouldn't beat Zannah because he wasn't strong enough. lol

Zannah isn't omnipotent with her magic...

EDIT:

Publius, Cade could throw a starship at Bane, while Bane throws a moon at the starship. They are tied in TK. A few zaps from Celeste at Zannah and she's dead. A few more at Bane and he's poisoned while preoccupied with blocking Cade's starship.

Stop talking about Zannah like she uses some ultra magical style that will flawlessly deflect every blow. She uses SORESU, a well known form that focuses on defense and she is far from the best we've seen with it.

By continually spinning the saber she can she can make sure that her opponants blade merely glances off of hers, using but a modicum of effrt on her part, it may not be unbeatable but its still pretty impressive. And it may not be unique, but I haven't ever seen someone use the style in the same way.

And I was merely saying that her style would make it very hard for Cade to tag her. Cade doesn't have the same advantages as Sarro.

Sarro didn't 'overload' her defenses, he fought smart, he threw her off and her had superior skill and stole her mobility.

Advantages that let Sarro 'wear[ing] her down' p.g 282. I'll give you the last one but Sarro didn't outskill her, by her own admission, 'each time she clashed with the olive-skinned giant, she was the one forced expend desperate, frantic energy'

Seriously, both Zannah and Sarro are underrated.

Publius, Cade could throw a starship at Bane, while Bane throws a moon at the starship. They are tied in TK. A few zaps from Celeste at Zannah and she's dead. A few more at Bane and he's poisoned while preoccupied with blocking Cade's starship.

Lol, self-pwnage.

Originally posted by Darth Exodus
By continually spinning the saber she can she can make sure that her opponants blade merely glances off of hers, using but a modicum of effrt on her part, it may not be unbeatable but its still pretty impressive. And it may not be unique, but I haven't ever seen someone use the style in the same way.

This. Is. SORESU. It is one of the styles commonly taught. Zannah is just rather proficient with it. It's defense with a DBL, nothing more and it isn't infallible

And I was merely saying that her style would make it very hard for Cade to tag her. Cade doesn't have the same advantages as Sarro.

Such as? Cade has skill, extreme power in the force and speed. He took Talon through the gut before she could do a thing.


Advantages that let Sarro 'wear[ing] her down' p.g 282. I'll give you the last one but Sarro didn't outskill her, by her own admission, 'each time she clashed with the olive-skinned giant, she was the one forced expend desperate, frantic energy'

So Sarro was skillfully forcing her to use energy and stole her mobility.
Zannah only survived because she had to keep moving

Seriously, both Zannah and Sarro are underrated.

Sarro's just rated fine.

EDIT AGAIN: oh and about your point with killing 2 jedi.
Anakin used the Force also when he was young. He was the only Human able to pilot a podracer ever. No other jedi was even capable of that. Although he is the chosen one, Zannah is supposed to be powerful also, potentially more powerful than Bane, which is pretty freakin powerful.. and she didn't have reflexes like that as a kid.

nvm it wasn't a double post.

When told to drop on the ground when Maul attacked, he just dropped suddenly. To be able to respond that fast takes considerable power, untrained as it was.

I'm not sure if power was the right word to use though.

sry for double post cuz it was past the 15 min rule thing.

nvm it wasn't a double post

"Lol, self-pwnage."

How is that self pwnage? I was just exploring the scenarios possible. Is there something wrong with that?

Originally posted by kotorfan
Publius, Cade could throw a starship at Bane, while Bane throws a moon at the starship. They are tied in TK.
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A few zaps from Celeste at Zannah and she's dead.
It's not like Zannah's a trained Sith Lord with a lightsaber or anything.

A few more at Bane and he's poisoned while preoccupied with blocking Cade's starship.
No.

Originally posted by kotorfan
EDIT AGAIN: oh and about your point with killing 2 jedi.
Anakin used the Force also when he was young. He was the only Human able to pilot a podracer ever. No other jedi was even capable of that. Although he is the chosen one, Zannah is supposed to be powerful also, potentially more powerful than Bane, which is pretty freakin powerful.. and she didn't have reflexes like that as a kid.

nvm it wasn't a double post.

When told to drop on the ground when Maul attacked, he just dropped suddenly. To be able to respond that fast takes considerable power, untrained as it was.

I'm not sure if power was the right word to use though.

sry for double post cuz it was past the 15 min rule thing.

nvm it wasn't a double post

"Lol, self-pwnage."

How is that self pwnage? I was just exploring the scenarios possible. Is there something wrong with that?

Are you high?

Originally posted by Publius II
Cade isn't a threat to Bane. The most he can hope to do is throw him off with telekinesis to stall, and even then he isn't doing any serious damage.

Cade by himself may not be a threat to Bane but celeste and Muur definitely are. Zannah is the weak link here. If she dies first, then Bane goes down.

This. Is. SORESU. It is one of the styles commonly taught. Zannah is just rather proficient with it. It's defense with a DBL, nothing more and it isn't infallible

Whatever, I still doubt that Cade will be able to get through what Zannah terms her 'impenetrable wall of defence''

Such as? Cade has skill, extreme power in the force and speed. He took Talon through the gut before she could do a thing.

The physical might needed to force Zannah to expend tonnes of eergy rather than just redirect his strikes. And I doubt that Cade will be able to blitz her considering that she could keep up with BM'ed Sarro and almost keep up with bloodlusted Bane.

Zannah only survived because of her masterful defence

Fixed.

BTW I am not high. I cannot do drugs anyways because I'm asian and I'm only 15 so don't even think about that.

Well the thing about the Moon vs. Starship. It really depends on how big the moon and starship is. Although the moon is probably larger than the starship, it is still an impressive act.

Or he could just hurl Bane away like he did Talon.

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Originally posted by Publius II
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It's not like Zannah's a trained Sith Lord with a lightsaber or anything.

Doesn't that help my case? Since she isn't a trained sith lord with a lightsaber, she wouldn't be able to block Celeste's lightning, resulting in a painful death. Cade and Celeste together can take bane.

EDIT AGAIN: Also, its not as if Celeste is crappy with a lightsaber, she defended against Krayt pretty well until he and Maladi Force lightninged her, which she blocked without Muur's Talisman. Then She Force lightninged them both back, almost killing Krayt, while Krayt utterly failed to touch her with lightning even with Maladi's help.

EDIT3: sry if this isn't related, but I just read the Readme.

Darth Bane could take the Death Star, since he moved a moon.. He could just throw it into a black hole. xD

Darth Bane did NOT move a moon.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Darth Bane did NOT move a moon.

well.. nvm then. I assumed he did because everyone kept saying he moved a moon.

In that case, How does Bane defend against Cade's starship?

What can Bane do with TK? I've never really seen his TK. only his FL which won't be of any use in this battle

[quote] It's not like Zannah's a trained Sith Lord with a lightsaber or anything.

Doesn't that help my case? Since she isn't a trained sith lord with a lightsaber, she wouldn't be able to block Celeste's lightning, resulting in a painful death. Cade and Celeste together can take bane.[/quote]
Bold is sarcasm.

everyone kept saying he moved a moon.

That's just a running (inside?) joke. Possibly making fun of Neb?

Originally posted by kotorfan
BTW I am not high. I cannot do drugs anyways because I'm asian and I'm only 15 so don't even think about that.
Aye.

You're clearly missing the smart genes.

Well the thing about the Moon vs. Starship. It really depends on how big the moon and starship is. Although the moon is probably larger than the starship, it is still an impressive act.
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Anyone? Please?

Or he could just hurl Bane away like he did Talon.
Bane >>>[...]>>>[...]>>>>>> Talon.

EDIT:

Doesn't that help my case? Since she isn't a trained sith lord with a lightsaber, she wouldn't be able to block Celeste's lightning, resulting in a painful death.

See RN's post.

Are you sure you're 15?

r u implying I'm 5? I don't have the time to read about all this first of all, which is why i use wookiepedia.

And how can zannah be trained in such little time? how old was she? like 14 when she fought the masters?

EDIT: I meant that she wouldn't have that much exp compared to the other combatants. Cade was an exception because of his great affinity to the force.

and I probably just didn't read carefully. sry about that.

Also I never met nebaris so could someone give me some info on him? I'm assuming he is an ass who got banned cuz he doesn't seem to be around.

Originally posted by kotorfan
r u implying I'm 5? I don't have the time to read about all this first of all, which is why i use wookiepedia.

Unfamiliarity with source material is one thing, but failure to understand the positions of the participants of the discussion is another. He was inquiring about your mental age because most 15 years olds can detect sarcasm.
Originally posted by kotorfan

And how can zannah be trained in such little time? how old was she? like 14 when she fought the masters?

She was 10 (I think) when she killed her first two Jedi. Then ~10 (more?) years pass before we see her again. She is almost fully trained.
Originally posted by kotorfan

Also I never met nebaris so could someone give me some info on him? I'm assuming he is an ass who got banned cuz he doesn't seem to be around.

You probably have, but just didn't realize it. Nebaris was banned a long time ago (in a galaxy far far away) and makes socks to be able to continue posting here. A recent one was Darth Luna, and even Faunus is a Nebaris sock. Someone registered for longer could tell you more than me, but here's what you really need to know: he loathes the PT (calling Yoda a "street level combatant"😉 and loves to fanwank Bane.