First impression: maybe the OP question should be, Which hero goes down first?
Couldn't at least Red Shift exploit Superman's weaknesses (eg, red sunlight)?
And Surfer's up against 3 near-Supe-level characters, whereas Superman alone would give Surfer trouble.
But in the spirit of the thread...
If none of the Surfer villians can use a Supe weakness, then Superman defeats those bad guys first. Otherwise, Surfer wins.
The only one Surfer might have trouble with is Zod. And thats if he doesn't exploit any weaknesses relatively quickly.
And the only one Superman might have trouble with is Ronan. And thats if he doesn't speedblitz him to hell from the outset.
I'd say both heroes clear this in a relatively short amount of time if they play it smart.
Originally posted by UKR
not even affected by a punch from the Hulk [/B]
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Originally posted by UKR
No way is Superman giving the Silver Surfer trouble. They're on completely different levels. When Superman can destroy a planet with his finger, and is not even affected by a punch from the Hulk, then maybe the two can be compared. Superman is NOT cosmic.
Superman has faster battle speed than SS.
This is what will give SS some trouble (SS may still win though).
Look at what Thor and others have done to SS with less battle speed than Superman's.
Hulk's strength fluctuates. So taking a hit from him means nothing if one doesn't know the lower bound of his strength at that time.
A very angry Hulk can ko SS in a matter of a few punches. This is a fact.
Originally posted by h1a8
Superman has faster battle speed than SS.
This is what will give SS some trouble (SS may still win though).
Look at what Thor and others have done to SS with less battle speed than Superman's.Hulk's strength fluctuates. So taking a hit from him means nothing if one doesn't know the lower bound of his strength at that time.
A very angry Hulk can ko SS in a matter of a few punches. This is a fact.
Superman and SS battle speed is comparable. Superman also does not use his speed all the time and has had problems with people with less battle speed than SS. so it goes both ways
Like what level of Hulk are u classifying as "very angry"?
Cuz Also SS has taken the best punches from a seemingly very angry hulk to little effect before.
Originally posted by Naija boy
Superman and SS battle speed is comparable. Superman also does not use his speed all the time and has had problems with people with less battle speed than SS. so it goes both waysLike what level of Hulk are u classifying as "very angry"?
Cuz Also SS has taken the best punches from a seemingly very angry hulk to little effect before.
Hulk strength ranges from 100 tons to astronomical tons.
Very angry implies astronomical tons (like planet shattering force).
Also Hulk holds back a lot when fighting people. We learned this from WWH.
Angry doesn't equal very angry.
It is impossible to know that Hulk is very angry vs. angry without feats.
Originally posted by h1a8
Hulk strength ranges from 100 tons to astronomical tons.
Very angry implies astronomical tons (like planet shattering force).Also Hulk holds back a lot when fighting people. We learned this from WWH.
Angry doesn't equal very angry.
It is impossible to know that Hulk is very angry vs. angry without feats.
Well its true its all open to interpretation. However, SS took punches from a bannerless hulk who was trying to kill him to little effect. The killing intent was there so id say it qualifies as very angry.
Originally posted by Naija boy"not so specially angry looking" Hulk made a crack in Ultrons armor (teh real Ultron with true adamantium). imagine what really angry Hulk could do 😛
Like what level of Hulk are u classifying as "very angry"?
Cuz Also SS has taken the best punches from a seemingly very angry hulk to little effect before.
btw I agree its SS who would give Supe trouble. SS has no weakness to start with and his durability is a notch above Supe. in fact how can Supe even hurt him? he will only hurt his own fists lol
This isn't a fight between Silver Surfer and Superman. Red Shift was a herald and the other two or near herald level.
Red Shift- http://www.marvel.com/universe/Red_Shift
Ronan the Accuser- http://www.marvel.com/universe/Ronan_the_Accuser
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Super Skrull- http://www.marvel.com/universe/Super_Skrull
