New York Post, Obama

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New York Post, Obama

So apparently, people are angry at the NY Post because of a comic strip the made with two officers shooting a chimp (Supposedly the chimp that mauled that woman's hands and face). And one officer says to the other: "They'll Have to find someone else to write the next stimulus bill"

Now there is a huge controversy over it. People are saying its racist against our president because the chimp in the comic is black...Hello!? Chimps ARE BLACK.

They are also saying it's wrong to refer to the president as a chimp.

I for one think it's Fing hilarious.

Thoughts?

Here's a link to it.

Obama/Chimp

You get black and white chimps?

Anyone who doesn't see that they meant the bill was written by monkeys and that it's a tie in to another news report about a monkey shot by police is an idiot and should be shot in the face violently...by chimps

Troubling at best given the historic racist attacks of African-Americans as being synonymous with monkeys.

Originally posted by jaden101
You get black and white chimps?

Anyone who doesn't see that they meant the bill was written by monkeys and that it's a tie in to another news report about a monkey shot by police is an idiot and should be shot in the face violently...by chimps

I had that same argument in one of my law classes just yesterday. Yeah, it failed there, too.

So, we get to have a shit ton of Chimpanzee caricatures of Bush as a chimp, a retard, etc., but we can't have a Chimp of Obama because he's black?

This kind of shit pisses me off. So much so that I'm going to start doodling chimp caricatures of Obama out of spite. 😐

Double standards suck.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Troubling at best given the historic racist attacks of African-Americans as being synonymous with monkeys.

Good that Chimps are apes then, right? 😖hifty:

Originally posted by dadudemon
This kind of shit pisses me off. So much so that I'm going to start doodling chimp caricatures of Obama out of spite. 😐

Double standards suck.

Yes, yes they do.

Double standards suck.

Except that the stereotype of looking like a primate has historically been used as ammo anti-black prejudice. There is a history behind calling a black guy chimp-esque that isn't there for a white guy.

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
Except that the stereotype of looking like a primate has historically been used as ammo anti-black prejudice. There is a history behind calling a black guy chimp-esque that isn't there for a white guy.

Good thing it was insult to his political intelligence, then, right? 😐

No matter WHAT animal would have been chosen, it would have been called racist. Seriously. That's how stupid "black" double standards are.

Just what animal do you think they should have "caricaturized" to convey their idiocy?

I guess they could have used a caveman, but that would infringe upon the world of Geico.

Edit- If I see a dude climb up a tree like a pro, you bet your sweet ass I'll call him a monkey, regardless of race.

P.S. I was called a monkey all my childhood for my big ears and my tree climbing prowess.

P.S.S. F*** the overly sensative. F*** political correctness. 😐

P.S.S.S. LOL...I was almost written up for not being politically correct at my job. Nothing racist, nothing sexist, or anything like that. Just too rude with how I worded things.

Originally posted by dadudemon
No matter WHAT animal would have been chosen, it would have been called racist. Seriously. That's how stupid "black" double standards are.

There's no good basis for that. And he did choose a monkey which was (if nothing else) very stupid.

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
Except that the stereotype of looking like a primate has historically been used as ammo anti-black prejudice. There is a history behind calling a black guy chimp-esque that isn't there for a white guy.

George Bush was criticized heavily for being an old white guy. Most Republicans are in fact.

Originally posted by inimalist
George Bush was criticized heavily for being an old white guy. Most Republicans are in fact.

The guy knew what that the reference might infer to some people. It's just a way to get attention.

There are plenty of ways to write a smart cartoon without using a monkey to describe the first minority president (now certainly, this could mean Congress and the Senate also which is full of all sorts of people, but these comics are always directly addressed to the head of state). They knew this is the reaction they would get from some outlets. Black people have been called all sorts of monkeys in U.S. popular culture even six decades ago. Certainly, this was going to rub some people the wrong way regardless of the watanabe "smartness" of the comic.

Poor moral judgment. Good commercial move.

That's all it is.

I personally didn't think the cartoon was about Obama. He didn't write the stimulus bill. I think people's own desperation to be outraged by something caused this drama more than the cartoonist. Cartoon wasn't really in the greatest taste anyway but I think people saw a monkey and associated it with Obama and him being black and that wasn't the intention of the cartoon at all.

And I'm black

Originally posted by SelinaAndBruce
I personally didn't think the cartoon was about Obama. He didn't write the stimulus bill. I think people's own desperation to be outraged by something caused this drama more than the cartoonist. Cartoon wasn't really in the greatest taste anyway but I think people saw a monkey and associated it with Obama and him being black and that wasn't the intention of the cartoon at all.

And I'm black

How much of the public do you think understands who wrote the bill? We might know it was not Obama (although he influenced it plenty) but those sorts of things always address the head of state.

Every news story says something something "Obama signs stim....", "Obama says pass the...", "Obama, etc."

Yeah, they could have placed the blame on the Chimp who wen crazy.

ah cmon what about all the jokes pics drawings over the years about bush being curious george that little learning monkey...lol...they have been doing drawings of political leaders like this in the U.S. probably since washington..lol..where do u think the donkey and elephant came from... a cartoonist...personally I think the republicans loved that as they labeled all democrats as being a jackass..lol..not sure of the details but its just funny... not discriminating...thats what cartoonists do and I think its kewl..jus my opinion

Originally posted by chithappens
The guy knew what that the reference might infer to some people. It's just a way to get attention.

There are plenty of ways to write a smart cartoon without using a monkey to describe the first minority president (now certainly, this could mean Congress and the Senate also which is full of all sorts of people, but these comics are always directly addressed to the head of state). They knew this is the reaction they would get from some outlets. Black people have been called all sorts of monkeys in U.S. popular culture even six decades ago. Certainly, this was going to rub some people the wrong way regardless of the watanabe "smartness" of the comic.

Poor moral judgment. Good commercial move.

That's all it is.

I don't disagree.

Originally posted by chithappens
The guy knew what that the reference might infer to some people. It's just a way to get attention.

There are plenty of ways to write a smart cartoon without using a monkey to describe the first minority president (now certainly, this could mean Congress and the Senate also which is full of all sorts of people, but these comics are always directly addressed to the head of state). They knew this is the reaction they would get from some outlets. Black people have been called all sorts of monkeys in U.S. popular culture even six decades ago. Certainly, this was going to rub some people the wrong way regardless of the watanabe "smartness" of the comic.

Poor moral judgment. Good commercial move.

That's all it is.

I agree with this post. He should have used better judgement...but damn these double standards.

I saw that strip yesterday while looking researching the attack. There's nothing that suggests the chimp is Obama...this is ridiculous. People's hypersensitive minds are connecting an ape and a black guy, even though there's nothing implying that's who it's supposed to be. Ludicrous.

Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
I saw that strip yesterday while looking researching the attack. There's nothing that suggests the chimp is Obama...this is ridiculous. People's hypersensitive minds are connecting an ape and a black guy, even though there's nothing implying that's who it's supposed to be. Ludicrous.

Indeed. If I saw that, I wouldn't have even thought about racism in the slightest.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I agree with this post. He should have used better judgement...but damn these double standards.

I disagree that it is a double standard.

Yeah, the bill has some stupid things in it, but the reference to a monkey is very suggestive because of who the head of state currently is. George Bush being called a monkey doesn't hold any racial context because white people in U.S. popular culture have never been used as monkeys that suggested an inherent inferiority based on race.

I read your post earlier and wholeheartedly understand what you mean, but I think it's safe to assume the New York Post had enough foresight to predict this reaction.