War of the Villians

Started by willRules2 pages
Originally posted by SevenShackles
i dont think spidey has enough personal stakes in it to be the one to take down norman.

You mean apart from the fact that Norman's killed Spidey's Lover (after sleeping with her and having two kids grow up to try and kill Peter), killed his daughter, his clone, kidnapped his Aunt May (mother figure) for years, drove Spidey's best friend and his only son insane before having his son killed through the formula and attempting to destroy Spider-man by making him heir to the Goblin mantle. To name but a few. Now this man who has taken sooooo much and more from Peter is the new Nick Fury.

But apart from that, yeah it's not really that personal. 🙄

what if Norman has a mental goblin lapse and brings the dark avengers to their own doom...look at them now hes being so strict and forcing them to get along basically a great idea since most bad guy teams fall apart for that reason...so what if he starts going back and forth from goblin back to Norman while takeing up arms as the Iron Patriot...so the team starts running a lil more crazy....causing avengers to come in an tear them up....any one listen to the marvel pod cast's?

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Originally posted by willRules
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exactly! lol 😆

Originally posted by willRules
You mean apart from the fact that Norman's killed Spidey's Lover (after sleeping with her and having two kids grow up to try and kill Peter), killed his daughter, his clone, kidnapped his Aunt May (mother figure) for years, drove Spidey's best friend and his only son insane before having his son killed through the formula and attempting to destroy Spider-man by making him heir to the Goblin mantle. To name but a few. Now this man who has taken sooooo much and more from Peter is the new Nick Fury.

But apart from that, yeah it's not really that personal. 🙄

lol i mean nothing personal in the current arc. the way things are so far is abit different and much broader in who is effected and connected to whats happening. for it to boil down to goblin-spidey like every other thing that has anything to do with norman just feels like its falling short.

Iron-Green-Goblin-Patriot?

Originally posted by SevenShackles
lol i mean nothing personal in the current arc. the way things are so far is abit different and much broader in who is effected and connected to whats happening. for it to boil down to goblin-spidey like every other thing that has anything to do with norman just feels like its falling short.

Fair point. I'd still like to see Norman's downfall be due to Spidey though. There's something poetic and justified about it IMO. ✅ Although Tony Stark might be another appropriate choice at this rate.....

well all i know is so far i think the dark avengers are pretty good...i mean its kinda early for me to make this opinion but idk i just seem to like it so far...i found this stuff below on Marvel.com....and no worries i quoted it so no plagiarism 😎

By Kiel Phegley

"This summer, Matt Fraction will write a crossover between his own UNCANNY X-MEN series and Brian Michael Bendis' DARK AVENGERS. Bookended on each side with one-shots drawn by superstar Marc Silvestri, the brunt of the series will take place within the pages of DARK AVENGERS and UNCANNY X-MEN as drawn by series regular artists Mike Deodato and Terry Dodson."

"I think this is the kind of crossover that's been missing for a while," explains Bendis, who helped in the planning of the story. "It's like Avengers/Defenders when you go, 'Hey, look! They're all in each other's books!' I personally wanted to see the X-Men more involved in the Marvel Universe proper. Sometimes the X-Men can be off in their own little world—which is fine, and I love them—but I wanted to see the Avengers and X-Men smashing heads. HOUSE OF M originally was pitched as an ASTONISHING X-MEN/NEW AVENGERS crossover. There were going to be some months where Joss [Whedon] didn't have an issue of ASTONISHING out, and that's what HOUSE OF M was going to be: something that took it's place while it skipped. And then it just kind of grew. Even though it was still in some ways the X-Men/Avengers crossover it was supposed to be, it became this larger Marvel Universe crossover."

"The genesis for the story came during a Dark Reign retreat where the pair of writers stuck upon a character vital to the direction of both their ongoing series."

"We were in a retreat going over who [Norman Osborn's] Cabal was," Bendis says. "I was trying to lock them down, and originally Magneto was going to be one of the members, but then Magneto wasn't available, and so the conversation became 'Well, what about Emma?' Then Emma became the most interesting person on that Cabal. I literally rewrote the whole thing to refocus from her point of view because her point of view was most fascinating. From there, Matt's right next to me, I'm writing AVENGERS and we're on XBox every night—it was inevitable that there would be some kind of crossover."

"While Bendis admits that "Matt's the headliner on this one," he also noted he'll be throwing in an idea or two mostly as an excuse to play more video games."

"We have a lot of similar thoughts and feelings about things but handle them differently. Best of all, [this] justifies any amount of XBox time we use because we're working. We're in a story conference. I don't know what [writer] Ivan Brandon is doing there, but we're working."

"The focus of the story centers on the inevitable conflict between the Marvel Universe's new super hero general and its most misfit band of powered peoples."

"It's Norman versus the X-Men Universe. What we're seeing here is Norman, as he promised in the first issue of DARK AVENGERS, making a list of things he needs to take care of. And the X-Men and the mutants are always a problem. That's what starts this story," Bendis lays out, adding that a major draw in the series would be "Wolverine is on the Avengers and the X-Men, and that gets to be discussed and played with in new ways."

bump.

Just reading some of the dark reign comics, I hope the crossover that ends this series is not written by bendis.

Based on stuff in the other books, there's definitely the X-Men style threats with Apocalypse looming in the background, Magneto doing something with the dreaming Celestial etc. Also, the Hand is revving up for something in a big bad way (possibly on the scale of Elektra: Assassin) and Kingpin's coming back to town as well.