Originally posted by inimalistSignificantly physical, to where I'm feeling it in a major bodily way. When I was on mj hiatus, there was no problem other than sometimes getting bored.
what does that mean though?and shopping or tanning can be "addictive", because of dopamine mediated connections. How is that not a "physical" addiction?
i know anecdotal evidence doesn't amount to much but since this is the current topic of discussion i figure what the hell:
i quit smoking cold turkey on the 14th, about a week and a half ago. i didn't cut down at all in advance, smoked consistently right up until the hour i had to quit.
at first i just felt like having a smoke, like little things that usually prompt me to smoke would remind me that i couldn't smoke, and it was slightly annoying but easy to get over by occupying my mind with something else.
by the 2nd/3rd day i couldn't sleep and spent all night taking robotussin (i was sick) and watching richard dawkins documentaries on youtube. that's about when i started to feel strong physical cravings, like i had a knot in my stomach or like the feeling of terror you feel in the pit of your stomach if someone were to be holding a knife to you.
it basically just makes you feel like punching somebody.
but shortly afterwards these physical cravings subsided and its back to a mental battle of trying to forget all the little things that remind you to smoke. as of now i have successfully fought off the temptations though it still seems to be affecting my sleep. i've had 3 different dreams about smoking in the last 2 nights.
about two years ago, i used to smoke weed daily and had to abruptly quit one day in the same manner, and i have to say that i never felt any strong craving for weed.
i know what it's like to be around the stuff and try not to smoke, which is hard, but as soon as i removed myself from that element (moved a couple states away) it wasn't so bad.
although the funny part is that i never smoked cigarettes until i had to quit smoking weed and just felt like having something in my hand to smoke, so i guess i just traded addictions (though i wouldn't say it was a fair trade, kind of a rip off)
Originally posted by lord xyz
Yeah In, that would be quite shit. Drugs are only for parties or hanging out imo, where a group of friends want a good time.
don't get the wrong impression
I was going paycheck to paycheck, never robbed anyone, never missed rent/utilities. When there was cash, it was good, you know. Just more, when an expense comes up and you have to make it Tues to Friday with no cash sort of thing.
Obviously I've just described huge social influence, as being broke as **** is pretty stressful, and I wasn't telling a story in order to be like "Marijuana is so bad", more just to illustrate my point.
Drugs are good at parties... Maybe I just like to party 😉
Originally posted by Mindship
Significantly physical, to where I'm feeling it in a major bodily way. When I was on mj hiatus, there was no problem other than sometimes getting bored.
I actually quit cigs with no withdrawal or cravings, so I get that different people have different vices. I can't say I get extremely "physical" type reactions when I don't get high, so maybe it is all psychological. I don't know though, the people in my immediate circle of friends are all just as heavy users, and we go through very similar things.
There are days where everyone I know is dry, and they aren't that bad. I think there has to be some cognitive thing where, if its available it becomes important, or whatever. LOL, go my screwed up life.
Originally posted by inimalistNot if the party is with people who suck and shitty music. Most parties involve alcohol as well, which is just bad. You feel dizzy and people hate you.
don't get the wrong impressionI was going paycheck to paycheck, never robbed anyone, never missed rent/utilities. When there was cash, it was good, you know. Just more, when an expense comes up and you have to make it Tues to Friday with no cash sort of thing.
Obviously I've just described huge social influence, as being broke as **** is pretty stressful, and I wasn't telling a story in order to be like "Marijuana is so bad", more just to illustrate my point.
Drugs are good at parties... Maybe I just like to party 😉
I actually quit cigs with no withdrawal or cravings, so I get that different people have different vices. I can't say I get extremely "physical" type reactions when I don't get high, so maybe it is all psychological. I don't know though, the people in my immediate circle of friends are all just as heavy users, and we go through very similar things.
There are days where everyone I know is dry, and they aren't that bad. I think there has to be some cognitive thing where, if its available it becomes important, or whatever. LOL, go my screwed up life.
Gigs and just hanging out are totally better in my experience.
Originally posted by lord xyz
Not if the party is with people who suck and shitty music. Most parties involve alcohol as well, which is just bad. You feel dizzy and people hate you.Gigs and just hanging out are totally better in my experience.
pfft, you haven't gone to any rave festivals then 😉
but no, I hear you, I don't really do hallucinogens in big crowds any more. Not that it is always a bad time, just that I am a HUGE introvert when I'm tripping.
actually, I find as you get older, alcohol becomes a little cooler, as people don't just want to get shitface drunk anymore. A beer with some friends is siiiiiiick!
Originally posted by inimalistOh yeah, nothing like having a pint or a drink with friends. I still prefer weed though.
pfft, you haven't gone to any rave festivals then 😉but no, I hear you, I don't really do hallucinogens in big crowds any more. Not that it is always a bad time, just that I am a HUGE introvert when I'm tripping.
actually, I find as you get older, alcohol becomes a little cooler, as people don't just want to get shitface drunk anymore. A beer with some friends is siiiiiiick!
Originally posted by inimalistWhen I was in grad school, after tripping a few times with friends or at parties, I realized how much better it was tripping alone. No distractions, I could really get into it.
I don't really do hallucinogens in big crowds any more. Not that it is always a bad time, just that I am a HUGE introvert when I'm tripping.
**sigh**