Sentry vs Wonder Woman

Originally posted by Avlon
If Beyonder was ret-conned, how would his word carry weight?

Would the whole mountain and statement be retconned as well and thus not valid?

no, the Beyonder's retcon only extends to the level of his power, not the actions and reactions he instigated.

Galactus still got his powers stolen by Doom, etc etc...

basically he's been taken down a peg from being beyond LT to somewhere around Galactus levels.

when he was at his peak, he stated that Hulk had an infinity of power similar to himself. if you really want to be obtuse, you can take that to mean Hulk's powers are as infinite as current Beyonder - still a great deal more than WW/Superman.

oh and The Stranger stated pretty much the same thing about Hulk too.

Originally posted by tkitna
Lol, whats that scan supposed to prove? Wow, Spectre said that Supes and WW were two of the mightiest beings in the universe. So what. Out of how many beings was he talking about? A group of ten, 100, 1000, more, etc,,,? The scan might have been impressive if he said they were THE two mightiest beings in the universe, but since it didnt, it really doesnt prove much besides the obvious.

If I had the time, i'd dig up numerous scans of comics stating the same thing for the Surfer, Hulk, Thor, and hell, probably the Thing. It just doesnt really prove anything.

Two of the mightiest beings in the UNIVERSES. Get it right.

Originally posted by janus77
typical 😐.

no, the Beyonder's retcon only extends to the level of his power, not the actions and reactions he instigated.

Galactus still got his powers stolen by Doom, etc etc...

basically he's been taken down a peg from being beyond LT to somewhere around Galactus levels.

when he was at his peak, he stated that Hulk had an infinity of power similar to himself. if you really want to be obtuse, you can take that to mean Hulk's powers are as infinite as current Beyonder - still a great deal more than WW/Superman.

oh and The Stranger stated pretty much the same thing about Hulk too.

Um, Actually, Wonder Woman, Batman, and Superman are corner Stones of reality. Thier power is literally beyond any marvel hero.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You do realize I could put up posts with Solomon Grundy using no superspeed and prove that Superman wasnt quick enough to react or avoid his punches.

He wasnt trying to block WW Hulk he was coming right for him. He traded blows with WW Hulk. Amazing imo.

Show me a WW feat that demonstrates she has quicker reaction time that cathing a bullet aimed at point blank range.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Spectre's word>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Spiderman's word.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Um, Actually, Wonder Woman, Batman, and Superman are corner Stones of reality. Thier power is literally beyond any marvel hero.

Originally posted by h1a8
What are you talking about? I was merely answering you here: "First off when has someone used speed on Sentry to show that he is too slow to react?" See you are using Sentry's high showings as the absolute truth and not WW's. This is bias. Either use both their averages or both their highs. Okay.
And WW has taken blows from many many beings just as strong or stronger than Superman (including Superman himself).
I'm sure you seen WW blocking multiple beams of light with her bracelets countless times. A light beam is about 11 million faster than a bullet. And Diana has blocked multiples of them simultaneously consistently.

Now show me scans of beings stronger than Superman beating on WW and her taking it and not avoiding it due to skill.

Again catching a bullet is more impressive than deflecting things imo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Huh? The Spectre thought he could destroy magic. So its easy to confuse the Spectre especially when he is hostless.

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What the hell does a hostless Spectre have to do with HAL JORDAN spectre's word? Not a damned thing.

Originally posted by fangirl101
What the hell does a hostless Spectre have to do with HAL JORDAN spectre's word? Not a damned thing.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
She wants to get railed by Clark 313

yes, she does.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Show me a scan that puts the Sentry feat to shame please.

i named the damn issue.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
http://img390.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boxonthemoon11ok.jpg
http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boxonthemoon21xt.jpg

I believe this is what Raoul was referring to earlier. While Superman doesn't stop the bullet, this is EASILY more impressive than Sentry's bullet-catching feat. Not only was Supes weakened by Ruin's red-sunlight emitters, but he appears to be not even in the same city that Jimmy(?) is in. He only takes off after the gun is fired, too.
http://img69.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ruinfight37qf.jpg
http://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ruinfight48nc.jpg
http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ruinfight51nc.jpg
http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ruinfight67mn.jpg
http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ruinfight73he.jpg

And afterwards, even still VERY depowered, Supes manages to dismantle Ruin's suit which was set to go off immediately if it is taken off of him and flies it up into the upper atmosphere before it can explode in Metropolis. Pretty insane speed feat for someone so depowered.
http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ruinfight189kd.jpg
http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ruinfight195pw.jpg

if i could load em, i'd tell you if it was...

Originally posted by fangirl101
Two of the mightiest beings in the UNIVERSES. Get it right.

😆 And what does that prove?

Nothing! 😂

My original statement still stands.

Originally posted by quanchi112

proof? Again him catching the bullet wasnt a high showing. he did it with ease. He struggled in no way,shape,or form. I have seen WW get temporarily knocked out and flee from Superman because she was clearly outmatched physically.

Now show me scans of beings stronger than Superman beating on WW and her taking it and not avoiding it due to skill.

Again catching a bullet is more impressive than deflecting things imo.

Are you smoking something? Say no to drugs. You say it wasn't a high showing then I guess it was a low one. Please show me several more which are higher than it in terms of reflex and action speed.

Until then you are bias and my words still stand:

"See you are using Sentry's high showings as the absolute truth and not WW's. This is bias. Either use both their averages or both their highs. Okay."

Originally posted by Raoul
yes, she does.

i named the damn issue.

if i could load em, i'd tell you if it was...

Originally posted by h1a8
Are you smoking something? Say no to drugs. You say it wasn't a high showing then I guess it was a low one. Please show me several more which are higher than it in terms of reflex and action speed.

Until then you are bias and my words still stand:

"See you are using Sentry's high showings as the absolute truth and not WW's. This is bias. Either use both their averages or both their highs. Okay."

What WW feats am I ignoring? Feel free to point them out.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He has flown to the sun and defeated the Void very quickly. Its at the end of the sentry series I believe volume 2. I think its understood that he flies all over the world in moments to get to places to save people. I thought it was understood that this guy is fast and that WW would have n speed advantage on this guy. I have seen no feats to suggest otherwise.

What WW feats am I ignoring? Feel free to point them out.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again catching a bullet is more impressive than deflecting things imo.

...🤨

Even if you're deflecting oh, say...thousands of RIDICULOUS-FASTER-THAN-BULLETS projectiles at the same time? Catching a bullet is still more impressive? Really?

P.S.--I know I said I'd avoid this thread, but I just couldn't help myself. Not when people are wrong on the internet.

Originally posted by h1a8
Here is a few:
WW has entered the speed force to exceed light. She has blocked multiple beams of energy coming at her simultaneously. She has travel all around the world in an instant (along with Superman and Flash). She has lassoed Zoom and Flash. She ducked a vicious fast Superman punch.

Scans?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
...🤨

Even if you're deflecting oh, say...thousands of RIDICULOUS-FASTER-THAN-BULLETS projectiles at the same time? Catching a bullet is still more impressive? Really?

P.S.--I know I said I'd avoid this thread, but I just couldn't help myself. Not when people are wrong on the internet.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Deflecting things coming towards you isnt as impressive as catching a bullet aimed at point blank range and coming to it and grabbing it effortlessly imo.

Scans?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because the bullet isnt travelling towards you. You actually have to travel towards it before it hits someone's dome at point blank range. Imo much more impressive. How long does it take a bullet once fired to hit someone's head at point blank range?

Originally posted by fangirl101
Rediculous. The Omega Beams weren't coming at Diana at all. And she zoomed in from NO WHERE and deflected them.

How long does it take a bullet once fired to hit someone's head at point blank range? [/B]