Sentry vs Wonder Woman

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
No it isn't.

To stop an object moving 200m/s you need to be move twice as fast as you need to stop an object moving 100m/s. The distance is completely meaningless. To stop an object moving at the speed of light you need to be 713,791 times faster than you need to be to stop an bullet moving at 420m/s (pistol muzzle velocity). The distance is still meaningless. That's very simple math.

Correct. Sentry and Wonderwoman both already have the ability to intervene to stop a bullet.

But the fact remains that the distance is not meaningless. It never is.

In fact, the opposite is true. Catching bullets (or anything for that matter) at close range, you dont allow it to gain distance. Gaining unnecessary distance is important in its relativity to you and to its target. The more time you waste in stopping it, the closer it gets to its mark. Do I really have to explain this?

Its easier to stop a beam moving at light speed right next to you....as opposed to waiting 3 seconds later to do the same thing. Its only more energy YOU have to expell to stop it.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Correct. Sentry and Wonderwoman both already have the ability to intervene to stop a bullet.

But the fact remains that the distance is not meaningless. It never is.

In fact, the opposite is true. Catching bullets (or anything for that matter) at close range, you dont allow it to gain distance. Gaining unnecessary distance is important in its relativity to you and to its target. The more time you waste in stopping it, the closer it gets to its mark. Do I really have to explain this?

Nope, it's actually great proof that WonderWoman is much faster than Sentry is. She wasted time and still performed a more impressive feat. It might be less efficient but it's still MORE THAN 713,791 TIMES FASTER.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Wrong.
Its true that to Sentry milli and nanos dont mean anything. And thats
a fact.

What that means is that:

1. light speeds means nothing to Sentry and he has shown that he can go beyond that.

2. The shorter the distance, the less difference it takes in reaction time to counter something moving. its the Wondertards that were going on about light speed beams and other BS. "Duh - but light speed is faster dan bulletzzz"

My point remains. Sentry is beyond the speed of bullets, sound and light. None of them mattter to him as he is beyond them.

Hilarious.

You're covering up your original point some bullshit you made up on the fly.

Original quote...

Originally posted by horrorwolf
You can say yeah, beams travel much faster than bullets, but when its at point blank range, the difference is nomimal. Get it?

Then, you stated this...

Originally posted by horrorwolf
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No,
Actually its a very simplistic and primary law of physics. For every measure of distance that gets shortened (We'll say halved), differences in speed get halved as well.

Take 2 guys running toward a little over a mile race. fast runner A gets there in around 42 minutes, Slow Guy B? - say 51 minutes. a ten minute difference.

If they race towards a line 3 feet away, A gets there in roughly 2.5 seconds, B in roughly 3

If we take that down to inches.... its EXACTLY like I said it was...hardly any difference - why? because time does not allow for it to ever occur.

And oh, only ignorant people don't know this.

Sentry's "perception" of how a bullet or a beam of light appears to him wasn't brought up until later.

You had to play it off like that's what you were trying to say in the first place because you made yourself look ridiculous.

That analogy made me laugh. I get the fact that you weren't comparing speed but rather, giving an example of how the "difference in inches cuts down any noticeable difference in speed," but the basis of comparison is folly. The speed of light is constant, and doesn't have to "accelerate" to get to its top speed. Also, a bullet is already going top speed as soon as it leaves the barrel of the gun. From any distance, if a beam of light and a bullet (traveling 1200 f/s) are fired at the exact same moment, the light would always reach the target 818,400x faster than the bullet.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Correct. Sentry and Wonderwoman both already have the ability to intervene to stop a bullet.

But the fact remains that the distance is not meaningless. It never is.

In fact, the opposite is true. Catching bullets (or anything for that matter) at close range, you dont allow it to gain distance. Gaining unnecessary distance is important in its relativity to you and to its target. The more time you waste in stopping it, the closer it gets to its mark. Do I really have to explain this?

Its easier to stop a beam moving at light speed right next to you....as opposed to waiting 3 seconds later to do the same thing. Its only more energy YOU have to expell to stop it.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Nope, it's actually great proof that WonderWoman is much faster than Sentry is. She wasted time and still performed a more impressive feat. It might be less efficient but it's still MORE THAN 713,791 TIMES FASTER.

Bottom of the page.

Well regardless of all this, it still seems like Bob has the edge when it comes to speed IMO.

Originally posted by batdude123
Hilarious.

You're covering up your original point some bullshit you made up on the fly.

Original quote...

Then, you stated this...

Sentry's "perception" of how a bullet or a beam of light appears to him wasn't brought up until later.

You had to play it off like that's what you were trying to say in the first place because you made yourself look ridiculous.

That analogy made me laugh. I get the fact that you weren't comparing speed but rather, giving an example of how the "difference in inches cuts down any noticeable difference in speed," but the basis of comparison is folly. The speed of light is constant, and doesn't have to "accelerate" to get to its top speed. Also, a bullet is already going top speed as soon as it leaves the barrel of the gun. From any distance, if a beam of light and a bullet (traveling 1200 f/s) are fired at the exact same moment, the light would always reach the target 818,400x faster than the bullet.

Regardless, My points remain. And I will restate them for you if you.

1. Sentry is faster than bullets and light speed moving lasers. youre speed differences of "this" being 818,400x faster "that" still means nothing. Pretty simple. Sentry can travel many times beyond the speed of light.

2. Speed is measured by distance traveled. Other than that it has literally no bearing on anything being discussed here. That was I was laughing when I heard....."but a lazer beam is faster than bulletz" SO the hell what. Sentry>>>>>bullets, lazers and beams. Case closed.

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I thought it was a fairly simple point. Guess not.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Well regardless of all this, it still seems like Bob has the edge when it comes to speed IMO.

Correct. 🙂

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Well regardless of all this, it still seems like Bob has the edge when it comes to speed IMO.

And your proof of this is? He seems to have the edge in what? travelling speed? which has to do with combat speed and reactions how?

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Regardless, My points remain. And I will restate them for you if you.

1. Sentry is faster than bullets and light speed moving lasers. youre speed differences of "this" being 818,400x faster "that" still means nothing. Pretty simple. Sentry can travel many times beyond the speed of light.

2. Speed is measured by distance traveled. Other than that it has literally no bearing on anything being discussed here. That was I was laughing when I heard....."but a lazer beam is faster than bulletz" SO the hell what. Sentry>>>>>bullets, lazers and beams. Case closed.

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I thought it was a fairly simple point. Guess not.

The best part is that you seem to actually believe all of that is anything but desperate dodging of the entire original argument. 😆

Originally posted by fangirl101
And your proof of this is? He seems to have the edge in what? travelling speed? which has to do with combat speed and reactions how?

She is less durable, He has better speed feats. Going all out in a true fight Sentry should pwn Wonderwoman every time.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The best part is that you seem to actually believe all of that is anything but desperate dodging of the entire original argument. 😆

Sentry is stronger, faster and more durable. He beats her ass 10/10. 😆

And I say again a "light beam" being faster than a bullet still means nothing to Sentry... Get it?

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Not really. I just stated and backed my points up. 🙂

Which wasn't the argument at all. You started in a debate about how stopping a bullet is more impressive than stopping a laser and are trying to end it on a completely different point. 😆

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Originally posted by horrorwolf
She is less durable, He has better speed feats. Going all out in a true fight Sentry should pwn Wonderwoman every time.

Nope. He doesn't have better speed feats when it comes to FIGHTING. He doesn't even have better speed feats of movement since she's entered the speed force under her own power. She's stronger and has better defense. Sentry has never launched the multiple speed attacks that it would take to get thru her defenses. I shut you down on the light construct thing. Now what else have you got?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Which wasn't the argument at all. You started in a debate about how stopping a bullet is more impressive than stopping a laser and are trying to end it on a completely different point. 😆

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Actually its the same point.

1. Sentry is faster than bullets, and faster than light speed moving "beams". To him they are nothing. If you agree...move on. 😛

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Traversing 92 million miles, or, more precisely, 1 AU = 1.495978706 x 10^11 meters in seconds is pretty neat if you ask me. Esepcially since light Light travels at a speed of 299,792 kilometers per second; 186,287 miles per second. Which means bob would have had to only spent 499.0 seconds to travel from the earth to the sun. Hes certainly much faster then Diana if u ask me.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Actually its the same point.

1. Sentry is faster than bullets, and faster than light speed moving "beams". If you agree...move on.

It's not the same point. Just because Sentry is faster than light doesn't mean catching a bullet is more impressive than intercepting a beam of light. You've failed in the most miserable way possible and are still trying to cover your ass.

hysterical

horrorwolf.

reporting people for bashing, when you are doing the exact same thing, isn't really a good idea.

re-opened, rather than using the new one.

Originally posted by Raoul
horrorwolf.

reporting people for bashing, when you are doing the exact same thing, isn't really a good idea.

reported....stupidface.

Originally posted by Tom Joad
reported....stupidface.