Originally posted by Xplosive
And after SF3 according to the official canon Ryu killed Akuma (he burnt him into ashes after undergoing training with Oro).
Would you mind posting sources/scans/clips of this? Or are you using Tiamat's guide?
BTW I have no problem accepting Ryu > Ken. At least Ken has an excuse.
Originally posted by cloud102
Thanks. Is he the most powerful?
The game's story is vague. Eventhough I have now completed it with everyone it is still somewhat confusing.
Anyways apparentely Gouken has achieved a new lvl of power. Something called the power of nothingness(so stupid) Gouken was unphased by an attack made by Gouki in both their endings. They are set to fight for Ryu's life.
So yeah...who knows.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
I realise ryu may be > ken but it says a lot about kens potential when he is nearly ryus equal and doesn't train nearly as hard
Yep.
Besides that Ken has no Murderous Intent in him which speaks a lot about him if you ask me.
You know...being able to fight without being tempted to kill your opponent.
Bad bad Ryu.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Yep.Besides that Ken has no Murderous Intent in him which speaks a lot about him if you ask me.
You know...being able to fight without being tempted to kill your opponent.
Bad bad Ryu.
They were called equal about their skills and to the time when Ryu didn't unleash his power. Like Akuma said, such as himself or Ryu, Bison, when they release their power, such fighters as Ken becomes child play. They are great, strong and skilled marital arts, but those mentioned are power.
Ken doesn't have the power within as Ryu does or other mentioned.
Bison knows Ryu had the most power, Akuma expects that, Oro, Seth knows that.
Ryu is by far more powerful being than Ken.
Originally posted by Mindset
Again, proof?
Bison knows Ryu had the most power, Akuma expects that, Oro, also extremely powerful Seth knows that.
Already Ryu transformation was destroying everything around him, bending altogether. He was so fast, he was invisible. He defeated ****ing Seth.
Every time Ryu fought Ken, it was Ryu holding his power very very much. It was just ordinary fight. When Ryu goes out, it's not ordinary fight where such as Ken wants to be involved (something like Sagat. Sagat is powerful, strong and was beating Ryu, but when Ryu shown just a glimpse of his power, Sagat was just a joke. That is why Akuma said when Ryu fights to his power, all other will become jokes). Oro said that already in 15 years Ryu might be his equal.
Bullets can't even scratch his skin anymore. Now, he is even more powerful than that. Akuma seeks Ryu for the ultimate battle. Do you think Akuma is stupid and wouldn't sense such power in Ken. Akuma knows Ken very well.
I know Ken was always more popular and I know that is the reason it's hard for fanboys to accept it, but that is the way it is.
Originally posted by XplosiveHow was any of that proof of a huge gap between Ken and Ryu?
Bison knows Ryu had the most power, Akuma expects that, Oro, also extremely powerful Seth knows that.
Already Ryu transformation was destroying everything around him, bending altogether. He was so fast, he was invisible. He defeated ****ing Seth.
Every time Ryu fought Ken, it was Ryu holding his power very very much. It was just ordinary fight. When Ryu goes out, it's not ordinary fight where such as Ken wants to be involved (something like Sagat. Sagat is powerful, strong and was beating Ryu, but when Ryu shown just a glimpse of his power, Sagat was just a joke. That is why Akuma said when Ryu fights to his power, all other will become jokes). Oro said that already in 15 years Ryu might be his equal.
Bullets can't even scratch his skin anymore. Now, he is even more powerful than that. Akuma seeks Ryu for the ultimate battle. Do you think Akuma is stupid and wouldn't sense such power in Ken. Akuma knows Ken very well.I know Ken was always more popular and I know that is the reason it's hard for fanboys to accept it, but that is the way it is.
Ryu not using the Dark Hadou =/= Ryu is holding back most of his power when fighting Ken. Ken holds back when he's fighting Ryu as well.
Sagat was a joke, so when you attack someone off guard with a shoryuken, you make them a joke? OK
You seem to be confusing potential with actual power. Which is why Akuma, Bison, and Oro are interested in Ryu, not the power he has now.
As it stands, Ken and Ryu do not have a wide gap between them in power. There is a wide gap between dedication though.
Also, Ken is more popular? This might just be your personal experience, but it certainly isn't a fact. Sounds like you just threw that in to try and write off the opinions that Ken not being way weaker than Ryu as fanboy rhetoric, good job! 👆
ryu is more powerful, but not by alot. once he realizes his potential though ken will be like nothing to him. he shows flashes of it at times right now. like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArOYR3ltDW8&feature=related i just don't see ken taking it to akuma like ryu does here. it looked as if ryu was actually beating akuma in that fight, without using the dark hadou.