You vs Earth (twist)

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The whole "Guy in a black body suit with red lasers coming from his eyes" thing didn't make you think hmmm, a guy in a black body suit with red lasers coming from his eyes, is an easy target for a sniper?

Originally posted by KingD19
Actually, several mutants/ metahumans could take anything we could throw at them.

Colossus
Strong Guy
Josiah Power
Emma Frost
Professor X
Storm
Iceman
Wise Son
Magneto
The list goes on.

Are you serious? Colossus, Xavier, or Storm could survive a Nuke?..or conventional bombs for that matter? Well, Colossus might could survive conventional bombs...but Daisy Cutters or Nukes..hell no.

Sebastian Shaw, lol.

Colossus has survived a nuke before, and storm could summon winds powerful enough to rip the nuke apart in mid flight, hit it with lightning, a lot of stuff And Xavier would just wipe the minds of anyone who opposed him. More than likely taking out powerful authority figures first.

Originally posted by KingD19
Colossus has survived a nuke before, and storm could summon winds powerful enough to rip the nuke apart in mid flight, hit it with lightning, a lot of stuff And Xavier would just wipe the minds of anyone who opposed him. More than likely taking out powerful authority figures first.

I have no doubt that these characters could give Earth problems. You got a scan showin' Colossus surviving a nuke at near ground zero? He doesn't have top notch durabilty..and I don't see him surving that. Hell if Juggs can KO him..what would a nuke do. Juggs hits hard...but not at the force a multi-megaton nuke would hit you.

Originally posted by KingD19
A guy in a skin tight, all black body suit, with a head covering, or the blue and yellow one, doesn't matter. Isn't that hard to find, unless you go to an S&M club, but, the fact that he'll be shooting bright red beams of energy from his eyes kinda helps you spot him.

And Dog/Chuck Norris could help save the world.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
Well sure. When he's given a choice between taking a near lethal dose of heroin or making his attempt at world domination with a clear head and years of experience under his belt and he's lying there on the ground completely unaware of where he because he made the wrong choice I suppose a sniper would be able to pick him right off.

Or when his first move is to slowly roll himself in a straight line down main street New York in a big wheel.

and, he's a tactical genius.

I can't find a scan of it, but in Ultimates, Hawkeye hit him with a localized nuke, 20 foot range, but still a full power warhead. Juggs never ko'd Colossus, he's beaten him, but as far as I know he's never knocked him unconscious. If you're talking about the 616 bar fight, he lost, but he was still conscious, and still armored up. He only goes back to normal when he wills it, or when he's knocked unconscious. And I doubt that the government would drop a nuke on a populated city.

My mistake, I found the scan, and it was a small scale nuke, but I have no doubt 616 or Ultimate could survive a full scale, as his durability is in the top tier of the Marvel universe in both 616 and Ultimate.

I'm pretty sure 616 colossus isn't being killed by a nuke. he's taken on far worse and come out fine.

the only problem is transport. i mean, a metal man that weighs tons is going to take months to take over the world, maybe even years...

Well, transport might become an issue, but considering the fact that he can go to any military base, take it over, then commandeer a jet or anything of that matter, getting around would be no problem. And if someone tries to self destruct whatever he's on, he can just armor up, survive, then start over. He could actually get it all out of the way by making sure the Pres is home, taking a tour of the White House, and pulling a Nightcrawler from X-2.

Originally posted by KingD19
Well, transport might become an issue, but considering the fact that he can go to any military base, take it over, then commandeer a jet or anything of that matter, getting around would be no problem. And if someone tries to self destruct whatever he's on, he can just armor up, survive, then start over. He could actually get it all out of the way by making sure the Pres is home, taking a tour of the White House, and pulling a Nightcrawler from X-2.

he could, if he was smart. i dunno if he'd risk travelling unarmoured though...

Wait... Mxy is less powerful than a fat comic book writer (it was written in da comic).

Dunno how that power would work against the world.

Colossus is a lot smarter than most people give him credit for, like using leverage in fights and things like that. And he can stay armored for days on end, the longest was 5 days, but I'm sure he can stay almost indefinitely. And if he can't, he can inspire enough fear in just about anyone to leave him alone.

They said Myx was less powerful because he doesn't really use his powers in a violent and evil way. But his actual abilities are just about infinite, 1% of that is enough to rule the world for as long as you live, which could be as long as you want.

Originally posted by KingD19
Colossus is a lot smarter than most people give him credit for, like using leverage in fights and things like that. And he can stay armored for days on end, the longest was 5 days, but I'm sure he can stay almost indefinitely. And if he can't, he can inspire enough fear in just about anyone to leave him alone.

if they want to kill him, all they'd have to do is wait until get got in to a plane or whatever, then shoot him out of the sky. he'd be lucky to armour up before he got hit. also, crossing oceans means that they could drop dozens of nukes on him...

Well like you said, traveling unarmored would be stupid, and considering the 5 day duration that he's shown so far, he can stay armored far longer than is necessary to get to any destination. And while he is a capable pilot, he would more than likely have someone fly him. Also, if he's flying in a jet, you wouldn't be able to hit him with a nuke. And even if they do shoot him out of the sky, if he's armored, he'll survive, he's done it many times before.

Above all you need some kind of AE and moderate defense. Storm would be a good choice.

Originally posted by KingD19
The whole "Guy in a black body suit with red lasers coming from his eyes" thing didn't make you think hmmm, a guy in a black body suit with red lasers coming from his eyes, is an easy target for a sniper?

If the only option for world domination is to bullrush the military in your costume then I suppose Cyclops would be a bad choice. But if you consider his tactical knowledge, the ability to fire the world's largest bulldozer from your face, and above all, the common sense to not stand on top of the empire state building firing his beams into the sky with his costume on, I think he could go pretty far.

True, if he could be like Mr.47 and keep his identity secret, fire his blast then get gone, then I think he could do some damage. But ruling from the shadows would be pretty difficult.

You're kinda going at it with both extremes. Lesser people have done more and they didn't have a raygun for a face.

True, but we're talking about Cyclops, his biggest advantage besides his tactical brilliance are his Optic Beams. If we're talking about just that one person going against the world, starting from scratch, with no resources. I would say Cyke is slow but steady guerilla fighter. Take out an important convoy here, hold a powerful dignitary hostage there. Slowly, but surely, he would take over the world if he kept his head on straight and played it safe.