spetznaz
Senior Fanboy Killer
Originally posted by rotiart
I can understand why someone would think steels hammer gets stronger with distance. work vs force over distance passing the inital point of inertia where the momentum of the object is simply being continuously added to by the propulsion system behind it... But if you were to shut off the propulsion the hammer would eventually lose it's force and it's work would decrease over the distance travelled over time.any repulsir blast. Even a pulse bolt has to have started with an initial energy source and the work involved would decrease over the distance since there would be less propulsion.
Damn comics. The science can't make any sense. Headache!!
Oh. I was simply providing an argument, devils advocate, for why heroes go fist to fist rather than applying over tech/magic.
Also the problem for say stark could be his repulsirs would do little to say the hulk who between his near invuln and godlike healing would shrug off most blasts.
Btw. War machine rapes me.
Warrior18 is right I would like it.
Cause once you go black, you don't go back!! 😱
I do understand where you are coming from, and for darn sure comic-'science' (and using the term 'science' is serious level stretching) really pushes things way too far into Lala land. Thus no disagreement there.
It is particularly hard for me since I strive to use logic when I post (I guess it seems I pop up in 6 month cycles for the last several years ....like a darn weed whose roots never die). I try to structure my posts logically, trying to format them in a cogent manner that would be applicable if the characters were real (as I once told someone years ago, being able to argue why one spandex wearing drawing can beat another techni-colored drawing, is able to hone my skills to arguing for why my financial plan is more appropos than another's asset allocation).
Going to Steel's hammer ...that is part of comic science. It is not an intepretation or belief ....it is clearly one of the abilities of his hammer. The way he made it enables it to increase its kinetic energy (be it by graviton manipulation or whatever) the further it goes. Thus I was not thinking that it hits harder as it travels ....that is actually one of the main abilities of his hammer, in that the further it travels the more imbued it gets with kinetic energy, thus being able to hit harder the further it travels.
Would that happen in the real world? Well, there are all sorts of counterposing forces, for instance friction. There would also be a need for some sort of propulsion system, and once it ran out the hammer would slow (or if it is large enough not to run out, it would mean a greater friction coefficient, which starts to have serious increases the larger you are and the faster you go. Take the Bugatti Veyron ...to get that extra 100mph from 130mph to 230 mph requires an extrapolated increase in horse power). Well, that's real world.
In comics, it is simply stated that the further the hammer travels, the more kinetic energy it has, and it hits harder the further it goes.
No thinking there.
Same thing with Iron Man. His normal repulsors are one thing, but Pulse Bolts are (again) stated to increase in energy potential the further they travel. It is not my intepretation, but something that has been stated.
It is quite frustrating sometimes ....for instance, how Cyclops can emit concussive energy from his eyes, etc etc etc. There were some books a couple of years back (I believe 'Science of the Xmen'😉 that did a good job trying to apply (mostly) theoretical physics, and they actually did a good job.
But at the end of the day ....comic book science is something that came up from the weird minds of people like Stan Lee (did they ever go to school? Just kidding), and thus the best thing to do is just to enjoy it.
As for 'once you go black '.....well, I am black, and I can assure you it is all very very true.
They NEVER go back!
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Thanks for the response.
