Hulk vs Darkseid

this is getting out of hand.

imo, yes darkseid has the ability to travel at high speeds, and he can fight faster and longer than than the finest human athlete by many magnitudes. but even if we all agree that ds is faster than the hulk, it's not by blur inducing speeds. imo ds and hulk would be quite comparable in hand to hand combat agility wise.

and who says that ds does not use his vast array of power to accelerate his actions? that flight feat with izaya was a display of ds' energy powers, not physical speed of any kind.

this thread IS tailor made for a hulk win, hence the hulk win more often than not in my opinion.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm not using abc logic; if we go by feats spiderman has more, we're not talking about who tagged who because every being in comics would have super speed including batman.

Speed feats, spiderman/wolverine>darkseid

and Superman and Martian Manhunter, Flash, etc. all have better feats them him and he has tagged them all.

That's still ABC logic.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
this is getting out of hand.

imo, yes darkseid has the ability to travel at high speeds, and he can fight faster and longer than than the finest human athlete by many magnitudes. but even if we all agree that ds is faster than the hulk, it's not by blur inducing speeds. imo ds and hulk would be quite comparable in hand to hand combat agility wise.

and who says that ds does not use his vast array of power to accelerate his actions? that flight feat with izaya was a display of ds' energy powers, not physical speed of any kind.

this thread IS tailor made for a hulk win, hence the hulk win more often than not in my opinion.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Quicksilver couldn't breach the speed of sound.

When'd he "tag" the Surfer moving at high speeds?

Same with Northstars, when did he tag him running?

Originally posted by carver9
So since wolverine has a speed feat that is> darkseid, I guess darkseid cant tag him huh?

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/1830/strategyte6.jpg

i laffed

Originally posted by carver9
So if I predict where north star was going or flash or mimic, etc.. I could tag them.

Wolverine had to have super speed to keep up with speed demon, no matter IF he knew where he was going he had to beat him to that destination which he did.

No....

That's how Mister X was able to compete with Wolverine, even though Wolverine is much faster than him. Mister X knew where Wolverine was going to strike, thus making it far easier to dodge and attack him.

Wolverine and Speed Demon were fighting inside a tiny cage. You didn't read the comic, did you? Speed Demon is also far slower than any of the people Darkseid tagged. Nor have you posted the scans of Hulk "tagging" northstar.

You're such a pathetic joke.

Originally posted by -K-M-
and Superman and Martian Manhunter, Flash, etc. all have better feats them him and he has tagged them all.

That's still ABC logic.

So since wolverine went h2h with sentry, since spiderman went h2h with fire lord and fought surfer he has speed even close to being comparable to them.

Lobo has also went h2h with everyone that you named he has super speed too?

Can you please stop using abc logic and show me some scans of darkseid amazing speed besides him tagging speedsters that fight like bricks.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
You're such a pathetic joke.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
No....

That's how Mister X was able to compete with Wolverine, even though Wolverine is much faster than him. Mister X knew where Wolverine was going to strike, thus making it far easier to dodge and attack him.

Wolverine and Speed Demon were fighting inside a tiny cage. You didn't read the comic, did you? Speed Demon is also far slower than any of the people Darkseid tagged. Nor have you posted the scans of Hulk "tagging" northstar.

You're such a pathetic joke.

Originally posted by fangirl101
are you serious? Darksied moved fast enough where Superman couldn't even see him move. Please get it together right now. It's out of hand that people think DS can't move at Super human speeds

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Nor have you posted the scans of Hulk "tagging" northstar.

Because it has never happened, unless you ignore the wee bit of context where he and Aurora lost their powers when they touched. This causes them to be powerless and then Hulk thunderclapped the grounded twins who couldn't even fly anymore. Small bit of context

Originally posted by psycho gundam
he grabbed his neck swiftly, that's cool in that instance, but in subsequent confrontations superman has hung darkseid out to dry many a time.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
No....

That's how Mister X was able to compete with Wolverine, even though Wolverine is much faster than him. Mister X knew where Wolverine was going to strike, thus making it far easier to dodge and attack him.

Wolverine and Speed Demon were fighting inside a tiny cage. You didn't read the comic, did you? Speed Demon is also far slower than any of the people Darkseid tagged. Nor have you posted the scans of Hulk "tagging" northstar.

You're such a pathetic joke.

Lol, I can be a pathetic joke (that was funny as hell) but Mr. x was a limited telepath, he read wolverines mind and new every move that he was going to do by reading his mind.

I know they are faster then speed demon but thats not the point. Speed demon can break the speed of sound, with that scan wolverine tagged a guy that is just that fast. With that said wolverine is as fast as the speed of sound if we go by the way you all are using your abc logic.

Going by what you all are saying solomon grundy, the general, konvikt, despero, etc... all have super speed since they hit almost everyone that was brought up on the dc side.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
he grabbed his neck swiftly, that's cool in that instance, but in subsequent confrontations superman has hung darkseid out to dry many a time.

Doesn't even matter. I think someone pointed out earlier that that was Desaad dressed up as Darkseid. And then there's the fact that that was during the PC era...

Originally posted by carver9
So since wolverine went h2h with sentry, since spiderman went h2h with fire lord and fought surfer he has speed even close to being comparable to them.

Lobo has also went h2h with everyone that you named he has super speed too?

Can you please stop using abc logic and show me some scans of darkseid amazing speed besides him tagging speedsters that fight like bricks.

Yes, as stated in his bios and his feats.

lulz at you saying I'm using ABC logic, your doing it again. That post was a clear definition of using ABC logic.

Show you scans? Look at the DS respect thread, and look at battles it's all pretty organized. Hence, why I made it so people stop asking for scans when they can clearly see it for themselves

Originally posted by -K-M-
Because it has never happened, unless you ignore the wee bit of context where he and Aurora lost their powers when they touched. This causes them to be powerless and then Hulk thunderclapped the grounded twins who couldn't even fly anymore. Small bit of context

I dont think thats what happened but I'm not going to argue with you since you are a master of alpha flight and you know a lot more than me when it comes to them. I'll try to find the comic that I'm talking about and post the scan but I dont think that he ended that fight with a thunder clap, more of a punch.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Doesn't even matter. I think someone pointed out earlier that that was Desaad dressed up as Darkseid. And then there's the fact that that was during the PC era...

Originally posted by carver9
I dont think thats what happened but I'm not going to argue with you since you are a master of alpha flight and you know a lot more than me when it comes to them. I'll try to find the comic that I'm talking about and post the scan but I dont think that he ended that fight with a thunder clap, more of a punch.

That's EXACTALLY what happened, it's Alpha Flight #29 [vol.1] and that's the ONLY time they have fought 616 Hulk. 😬

Originally posted by -K-M-
Yes, as stated in his bios and his feats.

lulz at you saying I'm using ABC logic, your doing it again. That post was a clear definition of using ABC logic.

Show you scans? Look at the DS respect thread, and look at battles it's all pretty organized. Hence, why I made it so people stop asking for scans when they can clearly see it for themselves

Im not using abc logic, I'm trying to show you what YOU are doing.

I dont think that spiderman nor wolverine could keep up with the people that I listed above but it happens in comics all the time, even with darkseid, so stop bringing up who he tagged because its pointless. Flash, a being that is a expert at using combat speed should be able to blitz the hell out of darkseid before darkseid even realized who he was fighting.

Originally posted by -K-M-
That's EXACTALLY what happened, it's Alpha Flight #29 [vol.1] and that's the ONLY time they have fought 616 Hulk. 😬

Well I'm not going to fuss with you because again, when it comes to alpha flight you are a expert with them but I will continue to look for the comic but I believe you though. 🙂

You would be the last person on the forum that I would ever try to dispute something against when it comes to them.

Originally posted by fangirl101
no. surely you jest. desaad is weaker than ds in every area. And yet desaad mimmicks DS abilities. Try again. and it wasn't pc era.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
he grabbed his neck swiftly, that's cool in that instance, but in subsequent confrontations superman has hung darkseid out to dry many a time.

That was PC era. And I think kg said it was Desaad dressed as Darkseid, but am not sure about that bit so...