5th Dimension Imps vs. Protege'

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Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by Galan007

Well.... If there's only one LT in all creation, wouldn't that make any appearances he's made (be them in What If's, or even MC2) canonical showings for him?


Yes, but that specific MC2 story, is not canon,
it's not reference in LT's bio (06' Handbook or the updated 08' Marv.com)
unlike all of the LT's appearances which are.
It's also not referenced in the MC2 Universe bio either in the Alternate verses Handbook.

Thank goodness too, cause that horse shit is about as bad as it gets,
when it comes to raping Marvel cosmological sense.

Mr Master Junior Member

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

how dyou figure?


Marvel On Panel facts.
Originally posted by SoulDevourer

what about Scathan then?
celestial > LT even tho celestials are suppose to be < Eternity

Scathan canon or non canon?


We don't know where the heck Scathan came from,
Scathan is from a future 1000 years from now,
and Scathan is obviously no common Celestial.

Scathan is definitely canon,
we know this because he's referenced in the LT's bio, including his feat.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

also in older comic didnt Dr Strange prevent LT from destroyin his universe or something? so writers showed that Dr Strange can match LT (or was it Franklin Richard who fought LT, not sure)


Never, in the history of Marvel comics,
has Strange or Franky, ever come close to challenging the LT,
both Strange & Franky are less than fleas to the LT.

SoulDevourer M0DERAT0R

Originally posted by Mr Master
Never, in the history of Marvel comics,
has Strange or Franky, ever come close to challenging the LT,
both Strange & Franky are less than fleas to the LT.
ok then what about the time when LT battle against that green guy who had a "polar staff" (or is it "solar staff" i not sure now) which can absorb power

the green guy couldnt harm LT but LT couldnt harm the green guy either (LTs power was useless against the polar staff it absorb all LTs attacks) so it look like they were matched!

in fact iirc LT wuz forced to destroy the green guys planet (btw LT uses energy blasts just to destroy mere planet? current LT can destroy a multiverse just by thinking it 🤨 )
but that didnt work either and the green guy was about to make last ditch attempt against LT by using all his staff power. then Dr Strange swoop in & snatch the staff
so this means if Dr Strange wasnt there then the green guy wouldve defeated LT? 😕

now fast foward & compare this with LT vs Adam where LT could neutralize the IG with simple thought (IG is >> magic staff right?)
so on 1 hand LT has trouble against some dude with a staff but on the other hand hes shown to be > IG

complexbrother The protector of logic

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
huh 😕

LT turns off IG
then teh other abstracts ask LT to turn it back on
then LT turns it back on
then LT judge Adam & tells him to give up the IG

at least im sure thats how it goes
why is Adam gonna try use the IG again after he accept to give it up?

beside u said u aint sure if LT has power over the IG when someone uses it so I post a scan where LT switches it off when Adam uses it. who cares when it happened

no you are all wrong.

Adam Warlock voluntarily disassembles the IG and gives 5 of the gems to his compatriots (the 6Th to a mystery character). the LT ordered the gems not to work in unison again to protect all reality from it's effects and possibly another despot like Thanos. the scene that you have shown is when AW collected all the gems to try and recreate the infinity Gauntlet to to stop the Goddess (who had 30 cosmic cubes) . the Living Tribunal never "cut off" the IG or disrupted it's powers. only it's effects (like when during the trial when Adam Warlock was about to go into battle with the other abstract entities, LT stopped the battle be making the abstract entities stand still, he did nothing to the IG or Warlock)

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by complexbrother
the Living Tribunal never "cut off" the IG or disrupted it's powers. only it's effects (like when during the trial when Adam Warlock was about to go into battle with the other abstract entities, LT stopped the battle be making the abstract entities stand still, he did nothing to the IG or Warlock)
I'm gonna take a shot in the dark here and say you haven't read much at all relating to the IG. I only say this because it's pretty common knowledge to anyone who has at least skimmed through said arcs, that LT ruled the infinity gems could not be used in unison. So yes, LT did 'cut off' the IG.

King Kandy Senior Member

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
ok then what about the time when LT battle against that green guy who had a "polar staff" (or is it "solar staff" i not sure now) which can absorb power

the green guy couldnt harm LT but LT couldnt harm the green guy either (LTs power was useless against the polar staff it absorb all LTs attacks) so it look like they were matched!

in fact iirc LT wuz forced to destroy the green guys planet (btw LT uses energy blasts just to destroy mere planet? current LT can destroy a multiverse just by thinking it 🤨 )
but that didnt work either and the green guy was about to make last ditch attempt against LT by using all his staff power. then Dr Strange swoop in & snatch the staff
so this means if Dr Strange wasnt there then the green guy wouldve defeated LT? 😕


That's Nebulos your talking about. Absolutely worst showing LT's ever had. You should give him a break though, that was like his second appearance and he wasn't even written as above Eternity at the time. And regardless LT was winning that fight.

Mindset Senior Member
Originally posted by Galan007
I'm gonna take a shot in the dark here and say you haven't read much at all relating to the IG. I only say this because it's pretty common knowledge to anyone who has at least skimmed through said arcs, that LT ruled the infinity gems could not be used in unison. So yes, LT did 'cut off' the IG.

Originally posted by complexbrother
the LT ordered the gems not to work in unison again
Que?

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Mindset
Que?
I was replying to his "LT never cut off the IG's power" statement - but yeah, I see now that he pretty much contradicted himself.

complexbrother The protector of logic

I did not contradict myself. *sigh*

Warlock agreed to stop using the power of the IG

"Nebula loses the Gauntlet to Adam Warlock. Thanos then appears to commit suicide by detonating a nuclear bomb rather than be taken prisoner, but actually retreats to contemplate his loss.

Following this, the Gauntlet is destroyed by Adam, who (after being decreed mentaly unfit to bear the weight of godhood) gives the six Infinity Gems to different guardians to prevent them ever being used again, this decision being further reinforced when The Living Tribunal decrees that the Gems shall never again be allowed to work as one"

see there is a diffrence .