Iceman and Firestorm vs. Thor and Flash

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We are going to level 6 soon

Originally posted by kgkg
We are going to level 6 soon

Heh.

Team 2 wins.

Originally posted by Galan007
It seems like Firestorm's ability (or lack thereof) to transmute organic matter goes back and fourth, for no particular reason. In one comic we have Jason transmuting the shit out of Killer Frost at the molecular level - then in the next comic we have statements regarding his inability to do.... things like that.

Meh, whatevs... ermm

Well, good to know I at least wasn't completely delusional.

And props on the sig. Monarch kicks infinite amounts of ass. I think he was best drawn in the Search for Ray Palmer Wildstorm crossover. Looked ****ing amazing there.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Well, good to know I at least wasn't completely delusional.

And props on the sig. Monarch kicks infinite amounts of ass. I think he was best drawn in the Search for Ray Palmer Wildstorm crossover. Looked ****ing amazing there.

Yeah, sometimes Jason can transmute organic matter, and sometimes he can't. And we are never given a reason for the fluctuations. 👇

Thanks! I completely agree. 👆

Originally posted by Enyalus
Well, good to know I at least wasn't completely delusional.

And props on the sig. Monarch kicks infinite amounts of ass. I think he was best drawn in the Search for Ray Palmer Wildstorm crossover. Looked ****ing amazing there.

I have grown to like Monarch a lot more now than I did when countdown was underway. Prlly because of my love for Prime and the fact they went at it. I am glad dc had the right outcome and had Prime getting the better of him.

Originally posted by Naija boy
Pfft. what the hell a "level 5" matter manipulator? Regardles surfer and Dr strange still have superior feats and if Loki a extremely good matter manipulator in his own right needs to be using skyfather level power to transform thor then Sersi performing the same feat is some pretty bad writing.

Eternals all have more or less the same skills, which they rank among themselves on levels 1-5. off the top of my head its stuff like physical strength, MM, speed, psionics, energy manipulation, etc. It's rare you find someone that's awesome at all areas, (outside of thanos, who doesn't really count) so those that specialize (like sersi, or makkari) tend to be top of their field in that particular area, and total crap at the rest.

that being said, Eternals are roughly = olympians who are roughly = Asgardians. IIRC per marvel Eternals and Olympians were commonly mistaken for each other by the general populace, and Zuras was somewhere around Zeus level.

If Sersi is the top tier among her race in terms of MM, there's no reason she shouldn't be able to have SOME effect on thor. That being said, Thor via mjolnir has some pretty impressive MM feats of his own and CRAZY HIGH durability, so unless he's just standing there picking his nose, direct MM on him shouldn't work too well.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have grown to like Monarch a lot more now than I did when countdown was underway. Prlly because of my love for Prime and the fact they went at it. I am glad dc had the right outcome and had Prime getting the better of him.

I dunno. Even when Monarch was Hank Hall they wrote him as a really cerebral character. As Adam, he was cerebral and classy. Thanos-like. I prefer him over Prime's whining any day.

Although...Prime in SC and Countdown >> Prime in IC or L3W.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I dunno. Even when Monarch was Hank Hall they wrote him as a really cerebral character. As Adam, he was cerebral and classy. Thanos-like. I prefer him over Prime's whining any day.

Although...Prime in SC and Countdown >> Prime in IC or L3W.

👆, and 👆

Originally posted by Space M ummy

If Sersi is the top tier among her race in terms of MM, there's no reason she shouldn't be able to have SOME effect on thor. That being said, Thor via mjolnir has some pretty impressive MM feats of his own and CRAZY HIGH durability, so unless he's just standing there picking his nose, direct MM on him shouldn't work too well.

Agreed she should be able to have some effect on him but certainly nothing to substantial. Loki needed to be amped with skyfather level power to turn thor into a frog and he has high level matter manip feats as well. No way sersi should be able to the same with a wave of the hand. I think its just the jobber aura that thor develops in avengers comics