Movie X-Men vs. Movie Transformers

Originally posted by KingD19
Just because Blackout did an EMP, doesn't mean he's immune, .

Yeah, he's the one that did the EMP blast and was standing in the middle of it of course it would'nt of effected him.

Well, when he's the source of it I doubt it would effect him. But there is nothing that suggest he's immune to being manipulated by magnetism.

Originally posted by Spire
That's right they are straight off the line out of a steel factory in Pittsburgh.

Doom's suit is made out of metal too.

How is that at all relevant to the Transformers?

Your sarcasm doesn't make your argument any stronger.

Originally posted by KingD19
What are you talking about, you're not giving any facts here. There's nothing that shows the movie transformers aren't effected by magnetism. Just because Blackout did an EMP, doesn't mean he's immune, how many times do I have to say it. You're also refusing to acknowledge all the info and things I've said because you obviously wan Transformers to win. But just because you want them to win, doesn't mean they do.

So your telling me that ancient alien beings with alien tech and physiology coupled with super intelligence and tons of experience don't have tech to overcome a magnetic attack.

There is nothing in the movie to show that Magneto can manipulate them.

Just because you want them to lose, doesn't mean they do.

Originally posted by Spire
So your telling me that ancient alien beings with alien tech and physiology coupled with super intelligence and tons of experience don't have tech to overcome a magnetic attack.

There is nothing in the movie to show that Magneto can manipulate them.

Just because you want them to lose, doesn't mean they do.

According to the movies.....no.

This is movie based, what happened in the movies, the movies dude. Also, the only character shown in the TF movie with magnetic capabilities was Jazz, and that was just his shield plucking a few guns out of the Sec-7 agents hands.

There's nothing in the movie to show he can't manipulate them is it?

Originally posted by Mindset
Doom created a device to negate Magneto's powers.

How is that at all relevant to the Transformers?

Your sarcasm doesn't make your argument any stronger.

Are you serious?

Originally posted by Mindset
So you're assuming they have abilities that they haven't shown?

Nope.

Originally posted by Spire
Are you serious?

I hope not.

Originally posted by Spire
Nope.

That's a basic thing, to actually back up your argument with relevant proof.

I don't doubt Mag's ability to manipulate a few transformers, but Movie Mags doesn't=Comic Mags and I don't see him being able to take out the entire roster simaltaniously. Same thing goes with Iceman, he might be able to freeze a transformer, but I don't think he's powerful enought to freeze them all. He'd probably have to take them down one at a time and it'd probably take a bit. As for who wins here, it depends on who all is involved in the fight. If we're talking about...

The entire X-Men Academy+Brotherhood and/or Phoenix vs Autobots+Decepticons, I give it to the Mutants.

The X-Men(regular Jean)+Brotherhood vs Autobots+Decepticons I'd give it to the Transformers.

Originally posted by KingD19
According to the movies.....no.

This is movie based, what happened in the movies, the movies dude. Also, the only character shown in the TF movie with magnetic capabilities was Jazz, and that was just his shield plucking a few guns out of the Sec-7 agents hands.

There's nothing in the movie to show he can't manipulate them is it?

Nothing to show he can.

Also apparently the transformers are aware magnetism, give Jazz's shield and Blackout's EMP.

Why don't they attack each other with magnetism?

Originally posted by darthgoober
I don't doubt Mag's ability to manipulate a few transformers, but Movie Mags doesn't=Comic Mags and I don't see him being able to take out the entire roster simaltaniously. Same thing goes with Iceman, he might be able to free a transformer, but I don't think he's powerful enought to freeze them all. He'd probably have to take them down one at a time and it'd probably take a bit. As for who wins here, it depends on who all is involved in the fight. If we're talking about...

The entire X-Men Academy+Brotherhood and/or Phoenix vs Autobots+Decepticons, I give it to the Mutants.

The X-Men(regular Jean)+Brotherhood vs Autobots+Decepticons I'd give it to the Transformers.

And I don't doubt the Transformers could beat Mags if he was by himself, but to think they wont be affected by his powers based on imaginary abilities, well I don't see that. (Not directed at you)

Plus you've got to take in account what everyone can do, and all of them fighting as a team.

Cyclops hits hard enough to knock normal people a long way, I think a full powered blast could at least knock a TF over.

I already said my piece on Storm

Kitty can seriously mess up some wiring

Juggs can hit pretty hard

Said my piece on Pyro

Said my piece on Iceman

etc, etc.....

And just becuase they are aware of and use magnetism in several non combat purposes, it doesn't make it an effective weapon when you've got energy cannons and machine guns and such.

Originally posted by Mindset
Well then where is your proof they can negate the effects of Magneto's powers?

There is nothing to show movie Mags can effect alien beings with alien tech and physiology, coupled with vast intelligence and experience.

Originally posted by Mindset
That's a basic thing, to actually back up your argument with relevant proof.

Then get to work son.

Originally posted by Spire
There is nothing to show movie Mags can effect alien beings with alien tech and physiology, coupled with vast intelligence and experience.

Then get to work son.

Originally posted by Mindset
The fact that they are made of metal and have not shown any resistance to magnetism.

Originally posted by Spire
There is nothing to show movie Mags can effect alien beings with alien tech and physiology, coupled with vast intelligence and experience.

Oh and they have never been attacked with magnetism. Not even from each other despite their apparent knowledge of EM.

Originally posted by Spire
Oh and they have never been attacked with magnetism. Not even from each other despite their apparent knowledge of EM.

That's not proof.

Well, to use it magnetism attacks that would be effective on each other, they would have to either build large scale machines capable of effecting each other, or integrating it into themselves. I saw none of that in the movie.

Originally posted by Mindset
So your proof that they are immune to it is because they were never shown to be attacked by it.

That's not proof.

With a simple flip, the same can be said about your post.

The only difference is that I have provided strong arguments in favor of my position.