Pre Retcon Beyonder vs Scathan

Originally posted by frommd
Don't think he cowered like a sissy, but he didn't seem able to do anything to stop Beyonder.

There was also the scans where Eternity, LT and a bunch of other abstracts show up to stop Beyonder from erasing Death. Note the second panel of the second scan, Beyonder is said to be, "more powerful than everybody else in the room combined." That included; Living Tribunal, Pre-retcon Molecule Man, Eternity and more.

Originally posted by Philosophía
If using pre-retconned Beyonder, it's logical you use only the pre-retconned period, and all the feats Living Tribunal/Eternity etc have done during that time. Only those.

Originally posted by Galan007
I've seen the scans/read the comics several times. I know what happens. All I corrected was an extreme exaggeration that was made, regarding LT/Beyonder.

But... But... We need to make Beyonder look as powerful as possible. Fanboy. none

Sorry if you don't like it, but that is what was shown.

Originally posted by frommd
I agree with you it was an extreme exaggeration.

Originally posted by frommd
Not sure if you were directing this at me.

Originally posted by Philosophía
If using pre-retconned Beyonder, it's logical you use only the pre-retconned period, and all the feats Living Tribunal/Eternity etc have done during that time. Only those.

Originally posted by Galan007 Nope, it was directed at Phil (hence the reason I quoted/replied to his post.) 🙂 [/B]

Originally posted by frommd
💃 Cool. 💃

Originally posted by fangirl101
lol u fell for that.

lol

If using pre-retconned Beyonder, it's logical you use only the pre-retconned period, and all the feats Living Tribunal/Eternity etc have done during that time. Only those.

Originally posted by Astner
I don't know if you guys buy into the omnipotence over feats bullshit. But if we use that specific period of time, then he was supreme--equal to TOAA. Basically a trade of positions.

Originally posted by Galan007
But... But... We need to make Beyonder look as powerful as possible. Fanboy. none

facepalm I forgot. I apologize.

I'll go back to ignoring pre-retconned Beyonder/Molecule Man threads.

Originally posted by Philosophía
I'll go back to ignoring pre-retconned Beyonder/Molecule Man threads.

uhuh

Originally posted by fangirl101
no he wasnt. toaa knows all. is absolutely omnipotent. the beyonder wasnt even the creatopr of the marvel multiverse. he was not toaa. not even close.

Originally posted by Galan007
It would behoove you.

uhuh

Originally posted by frommd
So, what is your opinion based on? I've shown scans that say he was millions of times more powerful than the Marvel multiverse combined. But, you just say, "no, he wasn't." That's your great argument? Who do you pick in the fight Galan?

Preretcon beyonder was more powerful than lt, around toaa level above below at... Whatever...

Postretcon beyonder is less than lt who is less than toaa

In both instances scathan is less than lt. Therefore preretcon wins. Post well there's your possible debate.

Originally posted by rotiart
In both instances scathan is less than lt.

Originally posted by fangirl101
no. I'm basing it on the fact that the lt is currently more powerful than the omniverse. Which is bigger than the multiverse. And that the beyond wrealm is part of the omniverse.

Originally posted by frommd
But, you ignore the fact that Beyonder was standing a few feet from LT and was said to be much more powerful than him and all the other abstracts there?

Originally posted by fangirl101
and u ignore the faxt that the lt had no beyond multiversal feats then as a matter of fact he was weaker than the molecule man. Pre retconned beyonder was only more powerfulk than the pre retconned abstracts.

I think I'll stick with what happened in the comics instead. Thanks though.

I'm not a fanboy of Beyonder. I think he was a stupid character. Looked like David Hasselhoff with a disco suit on, but his feats at that time are not ambiguous. LT, and all the others were powerless to stop him.

I've looked in the Celestials respect thread and the scans of Scathan show nothing that makes me think the outcome of this would be any different. Beyonder wins.

Originally posted by fangirl101
and u ignore the faxt that the lt had no beyond multiversal feats then as a matter of fact he was weaker than the molecule man. Pre retconned beyonder was only more powerfulk than the pre retconned abstracts.

Do you also ignore that narration said Beyonder was millions of times more powerful than the rest of the Marvel Universe?

That alone with erasing Lady Death would give him the win in my book.