X-men vs The Fantastic Four

But to be frank, your argument resolves around, the "X-men do this then that", without accounting for what F4 might do. In your whole scenario, the F4 can't manage to bring down one X-men? I don't buy that....

Originally posted by Vengeful Koala
Sue: Her shield is the only thing keeping her team together. Either Kitty phases in and sticks her in a wall, completely invulnerable to any attack the Four could possibly throw at her, or Nightcrawler teleports in and beats the shit out of her. The entire opening scene of X2 is a testament to how superhuman he really is.

Cumming wasn't cool with his pay, so they cut him out, and in the tie in game, they said he thought that X-Men lifestyle was too violent and dangerous, so he left.

So get another fecking actor.

I was just thinking, NC could take out most of the X-men... except for Colossus and maybe Jean Grey at her peak.

Even Wolvie?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Even Wolvie?

Teleport him over an ocean and drop his ass in, can't imagine Wolverine is very buoyant.

Originally posted by Placidity
I was just thinking, NC could take out most of the X-men... except for Colossus and maybe Jean Grey at her peak.

Xavier with a thought could destroy him, or at least make him think he's a gerbil.

Originally posted by Robtard
Teleport him over an ocean and drop his ass in, can't imagine Wolverine is very buoyant.

Dammmmn thats cold...! 😛

Speaking of which..........
Extreme cold is something Id like to see him tested with also.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Dammmmn thats cold...! 😛

Speaking of which..........
Extreme cold is something Id like to see him tested with also.

Stands to reason his healing-factor would keep frostbite and hypothermia at bay, so while he'd probably be slowed down some, I can't imagine it'd take him out.

In the comics, he's been shown walking around the snow with nothing but some short-shorts and I believe he was once trapped under a glacier for an extended period of time and survived by slicing off bits of his forearm (which healed over) for sustenance.

So he ate himself to stay alive...? LOLZ
Well its sounds then like his resistance to natural earth temps is beyond question, then.....

Anyone ever in comics even give him some of the T-1000 liquid nitrogen treatment...?

Got to do what you got to do.

Not that I know of.

Indeed.... He must've have seen "Alive".

Ah ok, cheers.

Most of the X-men can solo, Storm and Nightcrawler being the exceptions as well as Cyclops possibly. Stomp.

Originally posted by Darth Exodus
Most of the X-men can solo, Storm and Nightcrawler being the exceptions as well as Cyclops possibly. Stomp.

With the exceptions of Pryde and Nightcrawler, Sue can just bubble and hold any one of them.

Originally posted by Robtard
With the exceptions of Pryde and Nightcrawler, Sue can just bubble and hold any one of them.

And I imagine that Sue's power would be be more useful in a support role; correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think she ever demonstrated the ability to create and maintain multiple force fields at once. Assuming she can, then it stands to reason that each one would be comparatively weak, as she's spreading her focus. In that case, I can definitely see someone like Cyclops overwhelming her entirely with his optic blasts.

Take out Nightcrawler, Kitty, and Colossus, and this might be more even.

I was going from a 1 X-Man vs. the entire FF team, as that guy above said 'most of them could solo'.

Ah. My mistake.

X-men for the win.